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Most browsers have an easier time formatting lines with ² (andsup2;) than with <sup>2</sup>. The 1st gives a very small super-number; the 2nd is larger.

To import wikipedia to a place page (see edit for formatting): See formatting at Place:Franklin Township, Warren County, Ohio, United States

Questions and Instructions

Historical Place Names

Representing historical places is always a challenge. You have three tools at your disposal at WeRelate:

First, when you enter a place on a person/family page, you can enter the title of the page page that you want to link to (e.g., Sharon), followed by a bar (|), followed by the text that you want displayed (e.g., Stoughtonham District). This lets people see "Stoughtonham" when they view the page, but go to Sharon when the click on the link.

Second, you can list "alternate names" for places on the Place wiki page. So if the town of Stoughtonham eventually became Sharon, covering roughly the same geographic area at different points in time, you could add Stoughtonham as an alternate name for Sharon. By making Stoughtonham an alternate name for Sharon, when people search for Stoughtonham, the search results would include people with events in Sharon. And when gedcom's include events in Stoughtonham, those events will be matched to Sharon.

Third, you can list alternate containing jurisdictions (also located in's) for a place on the place's wiki page. It doesn't sound like this would apply in your case, but this is to handle the case of a town belonging to different counties at different points in time. Searches also take the "also located in's" into account, so someone searching for County X will see results for people located in towns that used to belong to that county.

Finally, if a place really was a distinct place that no longer exists, feel free to add it as a new place. We certainly don't have a moratorium on adding new places. We still have a ways to go. --Dallan 22:39, 19 January 2012 (EST)

Example of a village within a town within a county:
Place:Redstone, Conway, Carroll, New Hampshire, United States

Family: Unknown and Unknown [12 January 2012]

Because of dividing up my database for an upload, I have the children of Family:Unknown and Unknown (12942) and know the parents' names which I could add but I'm unsure how to go about it. Are there instructions for this type of situation? Could I just rename the family page and then create the person pages? Or it that even desirable because although I know the parents' names, I have no dates or locations for them. --Janiejac 19:27, 11 January 2012 (EST)

I would ask that you definitely rename the Family page to provide the names. You can provide a source or a note on this page. I do not create Person pages where I have no content. --Judy (jlanoux) 10:14, 12 January 2012 (EST)
I would just rename the page so that the parent's names are....apparent! No need to create the person pages if they're coming in a later load - though you could create them with the DOB/DOD information - it would just make it easier to find for matching up later. There's no sin in creating multiple copies of a person or family on a temporary basis to help you re-assemble things later. Your own pages merge as well as any others. --jrm03063 11:06, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Family Pages

not showing parents [24 January 2012]

This family page shows the parents of Thomas Jackson but not the parents of his wife Elizabeth Jackson. (1st cousins 1 time removed.) But when you click on her name, it shows her parents. A bug?
--Janiejac 13:14, 24 January 2012 (EST)

Hi Janie, yes this is a known bug :-( To fix this, edit the page for Elizabeth, remove her parents, and save the page. Then, edit the page again, add the parents back in, and save the page. Even though the family page does not display her parents, the pedigree chart does. --Jennifer (JBS66) 13:18, 24 January 2012 (EST)
sources not coming from person pages

No, sources on the Person page do not get copied to the Family page. Nor, probably, should they, since the sources on the Person page may describe one of the spouse's childhood or other event that has nothing to do with the marriage or family represented by the Family page. It creates some ambiguity and/or duplication when deciding where to cite sources, unfortunately. --Jrich 10:32, 24 October 2012 (EDT)

Source delete or redirect? [24 January 2012]

I just created a source which I think should probably be either deleted or redirected; I'm asking because I'm unsure. I created Source:Marriage Records of St. George's Episcopal Church but this source is a website which has compiled information from the book Source:Haight, John Sylvanus. Adventures for God : A History of St. George's Episcopal Church, Hempstead, Long Island. I made the free website a repository for the Source:Haight, John Sylvanus. Adventures for God : A History of St. George's Episcopal Church, Hempstead, Long Island. So I know this duplication is not right but what is the best way to cite such a source? I have not seen the original book; just the transcribed info on the website which they say comes from the book.--Janiejac 10:39, 24 January 2012 (EST)

I looked VERY quickly. If the web site is a COMPLETE transcript of the book, with minor changes to make it more convenient for use on the web, then I would say they are instances of the same source. You might note subtle differences in the two versions via a bullet item in a usage tip section for the source. If the web site is a transcript of PART of the book, then I think they're different sources - each with a usage tip noting the existence and relationship to the other source. --jrm03063 10:48, 24 January 2012 (EST)

template for conflicting data? [2 February 2012]

I thought there was a template for conflicting data but now I can't find it. Can someone point me to it if there is one. I want to acknowledge a problem with the data and so maybe get some help resolving it.--Janiejac 12:16, 2 February 2012 (EST) SEE TEMPLATES SECTION

JRM used to add a section to the narrative for Disputed Lineages, but I was unaware of a template. What are you picturing the template doing: adding a graphic, or something more? I would expect one would use "Alt." facts, such as Alt. Birth, Alt. Death, multiple spouses, multiple parents, etc., attaching appropriate sources to both regular and alternate facts so people can compare and assess them. Alternately, a discussion in the narrative, since conflicts are usually the result of not having conclusive primary sources, and therefore involves explaining the differing assumptions that give rise to the conflicting data, etc.
In addition to documenting conflicting data, I believe there is value in documenting rejected values so people that come to WeRelate knowing only those rejected values will be able realize that those pages are intended to be the same person even though the data doesn't match theirs exactly. But there doesn't seem to be a good way to do that, and there is always the question of which alternate data carries enough authority to justify mentioning. So again, free-form narrative seems to be the way this gets done. --Jrich 13:12, 2 February 2012 (EST)

Place links to wrong area of Wikipedia [5 February 2012]

Regarding Place:Baldwin, Nassau, New York, United States, the WP template only copies information from the first section of a WP page automatically. If you want to include other sections, like History and Geography, there are instructions here. To my knowledge, the text from those subsections will be updated a couple of times per year. --Jennifer (JBS66) 12:47, 5 February 2012 (EST)

Citations or source ref #s in text

To add a citation in the personal history text type: <ref name="S1" /> into the text box. Don't forget the /
An example of such citation is on this pg - Person:Robert Price (6)

instructions for creating cem pgs [5 February 2012]

Can someone add instructions for adding a link to Find-a-Grave on a new cemetery page. I will be adding so many pages and need to learn how to do this myself. I found the template but how do you find the cemetery number to put in the template? See template section.

I didn't know we had a template and just put links on the pages I did. But for your need, I went to FAG and looked for your cemetery. Then look at the URL for the page. You will see CRid=64319 in the link. --Judy (jlanoux) 11:43, 5 February 2012 (EST)
Found this template {{Fgravemem|add the mem # here|add the person's name here}}

A more recent example looks a bit more than I want to remember:

  • {{fgravecem|8038|Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery}}
  • [http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/sanmateo/holycross/cross.htm Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery, Colma] at [[Source:Interment.net Cemetery Records Online|Interment.net]]

give this:

Rockville Cemetery TO-DO

Here is an example of what I can do with my Rockville Study: Place:Eastman Cemetery in Bartlett Memorial Forest, Nottingham, Rockingham, New Hampshire, United States
Except that shows all the folks buried there and my study is for Jacksons only so that's not such a good idea afterall. Think on this for awhile.

Instructions for re-ordering spouces

I think I read somewhere that there was a way to list marriages in the proper chronological order when lack of marriage dates causes them to be listed out of order. I don't remember how to do that. How do I rearrange them properly?--janiejac 00:12, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Go to the edit screen for the person - to the 'Spouse and children family' section where there are 2 families listed. Hover your mouse arrow just to the left of one of the families. Your mouse pointer will change from a single arrow to 4 arrows pointing N-S-E-W. When your pointer changes to that, hold the left mouse button and drag the box either up or down to rearrange. --Jennifer (JBS66) 10:52, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! It was easy once I knew how!
More on this. I had forgotten I even had the 1st instruction and asked again. So here is the later response: Hey, Janie. If you are really struggling with estimating a marriage year, you can also manually rearrange the marriages on the person page. Edit the person page and use your mouse to hover the cursor just to the left of the marriage until you get a symbol with arrows pointing in 4 directions. Press the left mouse button and drag it to the order you want. You can't do this in the same edit session where you just added the marriage (although you can drag other marriages) - if you just added a marriage, save first and then edit again. If this isn't in the Help, it should be, but I'm pretty sure it is documented somewhere.

BTW: There are 2 things that cause a marriage to show up in the fact list - one is info about the marriage such as date/place, and the other is a source for the marriage (on the family page). So you don't have to have a date to have it show up, as long as you have a source. There does not appear to be a rhyme or reason for this - I suspect this is one of the things we should get fixed (marriages should always show up). --DataAnalyst 21:17, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Categories

Index of Categories: WeRelate:Category index

Discussion with Beth concerning new categories, specifically a category for Jackson immigrants:
See [http://www.werelate.org/wiki/User_talk:Janiejac#Alexander_M_Jackson_.5B11_April_2012.5D| http://www.werelate.org/wiki/User_talk:Janiejac#Alexander_M_Jackson_.5B11_April_2012.5D]

Category:Revolutionary War Patriots is for people who participated in the Revolutionary War, but did not serve.
For people who served, see Category:American Revolutionary War veterans.
For leaders and others famous for their service, see Category:American Revolutionary War Figures.

Transcription Instructions

So consider whether to use MySource or Transcript for Wills and such.

Templates to Remember

Template:Pedigree

Index of templates
List of Templates: Category:Templates Hmm that didn't work so try:
http://www.werelate.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=10

Template:Conjectured

OR this has been used to flag questionable info:
{{questionable|George Harrison was born about 6 years born before his "parents" were married, and evidence is needed that he was their child. Also [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Scott_Harrison Wikipedia article for John Scott Harrison does not include George Harrison as one of his children.}}
Perhaps could also use red flag template like this: Number in () indicates size of image.

{{SurnameCategoryTOC}} adds a table to category page.
__TOC__ put the Table of contents at the top of the page.
{{TOCright}} to force TOC to the right. Must be at the top of pg.


Template:In use - this page also has link to 'under construction'.

Citation needed: Citation needed= 2curly brackets on both sides of 'cn'
There is the {{Template:cn}} that produces this: Citation needed.

Template:Brickwall It will also automatically add your "brick wall" page to the Category:Brick walls page.

Image:Wallbash red.gif <Image:Wallbash red.gif> Benjamin has been placed in Category:Jackson Brick Walls. If you are able to add Benjamin's parents, please edit this page to remove this category and the wall bash image. This does not auto-add the category!
DNA Template Template:FamilyTreeDNA-YDNA-12

Something was said about using actual URLs for F-A-G links instead of templates. Yes, there is a template for this but from my experience URLs are more reliable than trying to copy CID numbers!

Template:Jackson Tapestry Menu (items on right that link to other pages).
Template:Big Gold Bar to embed into center template by using {{ }} Note it is also an attractive divider which will show anywhere it is used.
Template:Jackson Tapestry the 3 col navigation box

Needs Work ASAP
Needs Work
Considered complete at this time

{{{1}}}

Image:Wallbash red.gif xxxx has been placed in Category:Jackson Brick Walls. If you are able to add xxxx's parents, please edit this page to remove this category and the wall bash image.

Spreadsheets & Tables

Turn spreadsheets into tables for web pages without conversion tool; useful for werelate also? http://htmlhelp.rootsweb.ancestry.com/tutorials/genpages/excel.html Excel to wiki converter: http://excel2wiki.net/ Template:SurnameCategoryTOC is the following except put 2 curly brackets around it //SurnameCategoryTOC// instead of slashes. http://sandbox.werelate.org/wiki/Main_Page Here is link to the sandbox Special:ListPages not sure how this link works.

Examples & Favorite Links to remember

Creating transcription pages: Help:Transcript_pages
Link to Special:Specialpages Special Pages - click Browse then 'J' for list of Jackson articles:
Tutorial for Family Tree Explorer: Help:Family_Tree_Explorer_tutorial
Link to Dallan's ToDo/Suggestion List: WeRelate:Suggestions
Link to User:Jlanoux/Cheat sheet User:Jlanoux/Cheat sheet
Link to village in New York town to show how it is set up: Place:Pomona, Rockland, New York, United States

Link to list of Searchable Death Indexes, Cemeteries & Records (not on WR): http://www.deathindexes.com/index.html This has links for all states.
Link to list of Online Birth & Marriage Records Indexes for USA: http://www.germanroots.com/vitalrecords.html
Finding Aids: Wee Monster List of Online Data Bases: http://www.germanroots.com/databases.html

Link to Dallan's Talk page: User talk:Dallan
Quolla's Color chart: User:Quolla6/Color Table
Quolla's Disambiguation page: Disambiguation:Alexander Ewing Could I use this for the various William Jacksons???
Jillaine's William Ward page with Will for good example: Person:William Ward (17) (what I could do with the wills stored at google.docs)

Bob's instruction for cemetery page: Place:Flat Branch Presbyterian Church Cemetery, Flat Branch, Harnett, North Carolina, United States
Quolla6 - map containing Carlock: Settlers of Thompsons Creek, Washington County, VA
Link to Old Augusta Project

To force table to float to the right: Template:Tocright
Surname:Jackson category
Jackson in Clark, Indiana this pg has table created from s/s and converted to wiki - See my user pg 'tables'. There is more instruction somewhere.
Table by State: Category:Research guides
Help: Research_guides
Morrow DNA page: User:Amelia.Gerlicher/MorrowDNA

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