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This page is becoming too unwieldy to edit as one (especially from a blackberry), so I'm going to divide it up a bit. jillaine 15:18, 31 December 2008 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] RationaleA wiki is an ideal environment for collaboration. One area of collaboration could be around "brick walls". People could mark certain people (or other types of articles) as "Brick walls" and then interested parties-- either interested in that surname, location or just helpful folks with too much time on their hands -- could review current Brick Walls and see if they can help. A brick wall "label" or "tag" on a given page is also a strong visual clue that this page could benefit from some additional research while at the same time contributing to the person/people most interested in the brick-wall-person. [add comment] [edit] Proposed SolutionA {{brickwall}} code or category that can be used to tag certain pages (people or otherwise), that then generates a Special:Brickwalls page listing all brick wall pages (sorted in a helpful way) that is available for all people to peruse. Once the brick wall is solved, the {{brickwall}} code can then be removed from said page. jillaine 07:56, 30 December 2008 (EST) Examples:
[add comment] [edit] Drawing Board [1 January 2009]We would want a brick wall template to do a bit more I would think. So let's list what we would like to have happen.
::I've changed my mind on this last one. Forget the fill-out form. jillaine 02:42, 31 December 2008 (EST) --Ronni 02:06, 31 December 2008 (EST) I started a template. Play with it, redesign it, change colors, etc. We'll add a category name to it once the design and wording of the template is done. The template should work so that when someone adds it to their page, all it will do is:
Anything else? --Ronni 01:59, 1 January 2009 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Outstanding Questions
[add comment] [edit] Brick wall formAfter thinking about it some more, I think I tend to agree with you Jillaine. I don't believe a "form" to fill out will be necessary. The template "tag" could remind researchers to use the talk page for leaving as much information as they know about their ancestor or to leave specific goals or information they are seeking. --Ronni 21:22, 31 December 2008 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Promoting the brick wall template [1 January 2009]I left you hanging yesterday on an idea I have on promoting the brick wall template (templates in general actually). One major problem with doing a project like this is letting folks know what tools or projects are available on WeRelate. If we create a brick wall template, how do we let users, especially new users know that such a template exists? My idea, and one I imagine Dallan would have to get on board with or implement for us, is to have a list of "person/family templates" that are listed at the bottom of the page (with the "watch this page" and "add to tree" etc) where a researcher could click on the template they wanted to add to the page they are currently editing. User templates would be something similar to the "merge" and "brick wall" template. Over time I imagine more of these types of templates will be created, but even so I don't think the list will be unwieldy that they couldn't be included at the bottom of a person/family page while editing. Dallan or an admin would have to probably "approve" such a list just to keep things orderly, etc. --Ronni 21:22, 31 December 2008 (EST)
As to the "News" box on the main page, I think only admins can edit that. The "News" available from the pull-down menu leads to Dallan's blog where I assume only he can edit it. Spreading "what's new or happening" *within* WeRelate is something I've discussed before with the other admins. Anyone can create a "blog type" page within WeRelate to discuss various topics. Finding it, where to put it, etc is the problem. A link to such a "news blog" could be placed at the head of the Watercooler perhaps until something better comes along? Just do it, then we'll find a place to put it or link to it. :) --Ronni 10:46, 1 January 2009 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Acknowledgements [31 December 2008]
I had an idea like this not too long ago. Not quite this thought out, though. Got no response, except from Beth who I think felt sorry for me that I got no response. <g> And you're right. Even if this idea goes no where, I think talking about these kinds of projects leads to other ideas and ways of using WeRelate. I love learning about this kind of stuff. --Ronni 21:22, 31 December 2008 (EST)
[add comment] [edit] Examples of Good Brick-Wall-type Pages [1 January 2009]I just happened across this. I like it as an example of a type of page that implies brick wall. In this case, it's NOT a brick wall, but a brick wall page *could* be organized like this one:
[add comment] [edit] Later thoughts on using brick wall templates [26 December 2011]I was not aware of this template and a few months ago created a Category:Jackson Brick Walls. I think I'll give my Jackson Brick Walls a parent category of Category:Brick walls. I used the small wall-bash template on my page like this:
I like the little wall-bash template but it doesn't automatically add the category to the bottom of the page. Was it ever determined that the larger brick wall template actually automatically added the category? --Janiejac 00:13, 26 December 2011 (EST) [add comment] [edit] Sorting (in the category) [16 December 2012]I've been looking through mediawiki help pages, and I can't find a way to sort the pages that are added to a template. All of the pages with the Brickwall template added to them are being sorted on that category page by their namespace. Is there anyway to get them ordered by (eg) surname? Would this need to be an edit to the template itself?--Obstinatesnooper 12:47, 16 December 2012 (EST) |