Portal talk:Family


Should Person and Family Portals be combined? [19 May 2011]

Hmmm... wonder if the person portal and the family portal couldn't be combined into one? --Ronni 21:03, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Combining these two portals could be a good idea, i.e., collecting related ideas for improvements together. --Dquass 22:45, 15 February 2009 (EST)

I'm actually liking them separate. I think that helping newbies understand the distinction helps them (us) to learn how the system works. --jillaine 07:10, 16 February 2009 (EST)

I have to agree with Jillaine. I've seen many instances where new WR users will create Family pages, but not realize they also need to create pages for each Person. Perhaps this would be a good place to note that.

I was going to suggest combining them, but perhaps they should be kept separate if it helps people understand the distinction.--13:10, 23 February 2009 (EST)

I am new to this site . I noticed wrong info on my Taylor family. How do I edit/change this? Thank you, Robbie Taylor--California5 10:53, 19 May 2011 (EDT)

Navigate to the page in question, then click "Edit" on the left-hand side, correct the information, and save the page. You might also want to add a source for the correct information, or leave a note explaining why you did what you did. (Also, in the future you'll get more response to your questions if you ask them at WeRelate talk:Support.) Welcome to WeRelate!--Dallan 21:53, 19 May 2011 (EDT)

Items to include

  • Maybe a section on the need to create Person pages in addition to Family pages.

About Uploading GEDCOMs on the Family Page [2 March 2009]

I would strongly recommend that instead of linking directly to the page where one clicks "Upload", that instead, the link from the portal page goes to the section of Help:GEDCOM (or is it Help:Gedcom?) that describes "Preparing your GEDCOM for upload."

AND that that last be edited to include language about the purpose of WeRelate and the goal to have single instances of pages for each individual. I don't have time this immediate minute to do the editing (at work and shouldn't even be here now), but something along the lines of:

Unlike other sites that store multiple copies of family trees and GEDCOMs (such as WorldConnect and Ancestry.com), WeRelate seeks to have only one page for each person and family. Therefore, before you upload a GEDCOM, check to see if your line is already on WeRelate by using the Special:Search feature. If it is, only upload those portions of your GEDCOM that are not yet represented here. The exception would be if your GEDCOM has significantly better, sourced information than what is already available on WeRelate.

etc etc.

gotta go.

-- jillaine 09:40, 25 February 2009 (EST)

Another option would be to edit MediaWiki:Importgedcomtext, which is the text that appears on the import gedcom page. I just added a sentence about one page per person, but didn't go as far as to suggest that people search before uploading because (a) I doubt most people will go that far, and (b) we're really close to having merge-during-upload ready (honest) which will do the searching for them. Feel free to edit this page. It's a MediaWiki page which means that only admins can edit it unfortunately, but feel free to add edits to the talk page and I'll incorporate them.--Dallan 18:25, 25 February 2009 (EST)

Do they have to read/agree to that before actually uploading?

My fear is that if they've gone as far as clicking the "upload" button, then they're not going to read anything further.

I'm feeling particularly snarky about this because I've spent hours merging colonial person and family pages, and was feeling rather good about it, and then someone just uploaded another colonial gedcom, and I feel like I have to start all over. I'm certain I'm not the first to experience this. Only the most recent.

If you would tell me that you'd put a hold on uploading GEDCOMs until your merge-upon-upload feature is complete, then I'd be less snarky.


-- jillaine 19:03, 26 February 2009 (EST)

I don't want to put a hold on all gedcom uploads because I think most gedcom's are not a problem. But I'm ok with deleting the ones that are until merge-during-upload is ready.--Dallan 21:21, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Problem with Family Portal [3 May 2009]

This all looks great but seems to me it encourages new users to enter data in the reverse. When a new user follows the instructions on this page for entering a family they end up with a family page with no names entered on the family page, another words no spouses. All they have is an empty family page and I am not sure they know what do to after that. I would encourage new users to start with the person page and then add the spouse from the person page. Then you have created the family page and can add children from that page. --Beth 21:12, 3 May 2009 (EDT)

No children [3 May 2011]

I have a particular family that I know had no children. I want to add that fact to the page. However, I had to create an additional "Children" header on the page for that, which looks funny, as there is already a Children header automatically created. Could we add a check box under Children to indicate that the couple had no children. It would then state such on the page. A source box could be added after the check box to include a citation for the fact. —Parsa 14:11, 2 May 2011 (EDT)

Could you add this to WeRelate:Suggestions?--Dallan 12:54, 3 May 2011 (EDT)

Righto.... Thanks for adding the Suggestions page, too. — Parsa 20:43, 3 May 2011 (EDT)