Place talk:Ireland

Ireland existed in 1900 [13 September 2017]

Ireland existed in 1900, therefore it should be the principal desciption for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. I am not trying to be political. I am just trying to make a lot less work for everyone whose ancestors emigrated to North America during the 1900s. That's a helluvalot of people.--goldenoldie 11:58, 30 November 2012 (EST)

You have a point. We could potentially rename all Irish places to ", Ireland" instead of ", Republic of Ireland" or ", Northern Ireland". I don't have strong feelings about this, but I'm not Irish and I understand that there could be some sensitivities. Perhaps you could bring this up with the place patrol?--Dallan 01:22, 1 December 2012 (EST)

I completely agree with Goldenoldie. This response is very late in the game, but after many years of working with the current structure, it is clear to me that Ireland should have been structured to follow the 1900 rule in the same way other Place pages do. It is very confusing as is. --cos1776 15:17, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Levels of place names

Ireland has several levels of place names. Depending on the record, the place name someone might be looking for will be different. The townland Keeloges East (also spelled Keelogues East), includes three villages: Prosperry, Ummeracom, and Buncrower. It is contained in the Barony of Ballymoe, the Civil Parish of Ballynakill, the District Electoral Division of Toberoe, the Poor Law Union of Glenamaddy, the Parliamentary Division of North Galway, the Constabulary Division of Dunsmore (Ballymoe Subdistrict), in County Galway.

The on-line versions of the 1901 and 1911 Census are arranged by County, DED, Townland.

Civil records at www.irishgenealogy.ie are divided by Civil Registration District/Office, with a townland noted on the record itself.

I have seen a village, a townland, or a civil parish given as place of birth in American records of Irish immigrants. This being the case, and given the 1900 rule and the convention of using four levels, it seems that perhaps we should use Ireland, County, DED, Townland; or Ireland, County, Civil Parish, Townland. These can be taken from the enumerator's page of the 1901 census. --Acurley 15:43, 13 September 2017 (UTC)