Person talk:Simon Hoyt (1)

Why is Simon Hoyt not included in 1620s immigrants and Great Migration Study Project categories. [9 November 2011]

I must be missing something. I'm looking at the Simon Hoyt sketch in The Great Migration Begins, p. 1029. He emigrated in 1629, which makes him a 1620s immigrant; he's covered in TGMB; and Anderson, at least, does not claim he came in the Higginson group in 1629. Why, then, should he not be included in the 1620s immigrants and Great Migration Study Project categories?--jaques1724 21:16, 9 November 2011 (EST)

You're not wrong. I last edited the page in 2009 before those categories existed, and there's only about 3 of us that add them :-) --Amelia 22:51, 9 November 2011 (EST)

Rejected Upway Dates and Identification of Simon's First Wife [10 November 2011]

The rejected data referred to by Anderson is provided for clarification. It comes from Source:Constant, Silas. Journal of the Reverend Silas Constant, Pastor of the Presbyterian Church at Yorktown, New York, pp. 417-18.

"Simon Hoyt², son of John and Ruth Hoyt, was born at Dorchester, England, 20 January, 1590, and married in the parish church of Upway, Dorsetshire, 2 December 1612, to Deborah, daughter of Walter Stowers, born in Dorchester, 1 May, and baptized at Upway, 5 June, 1593. In 1628 or 1629 Simon Hoyt, accompanied by his family, brother-in-law Nicholas Stowers, and the Spragues, who were also of Upway in Dorset, arrived at Salem, Massachusetts, and in the latter year went to Charlestown. In 1630 he was of Dorchester, in 1635 of Scituate, in 1639 of Windsor, Connecticut, and some time between 1649 and 1657 he removed to Stamford, where he died 1 September, 1657. The date of death of his wife Deborah is not known. He married (2) Susanna -----, who survived him and married ----- Bates. By his wife Deborah Stowers he had the following children, whose births and baptisms were taken from the records of the parish church of Upway by J. Cornelius Haight, of Fishkill, New York: 1. John Hoyt³ Hoyt, born 12 March, 1614. 2. Walter Hoyt³, born 9 June, 1616. 3. Thomas Hoyt³, born 20 September, 1618; died at Stamford, Connecticut, 9 September 1656. 4. Deborah³ Hoyt, born 9 August, 1620; died 3 June 1628. 5. Nicholas³ Hoyt, born 10 November, 1622. 6. Ruth³ Hoyt, born 2 January, 1625; died 9 May, 1627.

His children by second wife Susanna were: 7. Moses Hoyt³. 8. Joshua Hoyt³. 9. Samuel Hoyt³. 10. Benjamin Hoyt³. 11. A daughter, who married Thomas Lyon. 12. A daughter, who married Samuel Finch. 13. A daughter, who married Samuel Firman."

The issues are with the parentage and birth date/place of Simon Hoyt; the identification of one Deborah Stowers as his first wife and, by extension, of Nicholas Stowers as his brother-in-law; and the birth and death dates of children 1 through 6. The seven children listed for the second marriage are consistent with those identified by Anderson in The Great Migration Begins sketch of Simon Hoyt.

In notes by professional genealogist Robin Bush of Somerset UK re: Simon Hoyt[1], he identifies a marriage between one Simon Hoyt and one Jane Stoodlie at Marshwood, Dorset, a marriage which he says neatly fits with the baptism of Simon's first child at West Hatch on 29 Nov. 1618 (Marshwood and West Hatch are about twenty miles apart). However, he stops short of claiming that this was the marriage of the immigrant Simon Hoyt.--jaques1724 08:40, 10 November 2011 (EST)