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son John 1615-1615 [12 March 2014]
Not sure what to do with this. Some of this info is from son john b. 1621/2. I don't know if there was an earlier son John. Sources seem to have come from a merge. The Avery book does not mention two sons named John.--Prcb 06:53, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- What problem do you see? There is a source cited, the source says what is represented, and it would generally be considered superior to Avery. Since Anderson does mention two sons named John based on baptism records in England, also a daughter Alice that Avery does not have because Avery appears to give the wrong marriage date, i.e., see here. the first thing you would have to do is show Anderson is wrong, likely to be a difficult challenge. --Jrich 18:09, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- The problem was that that John died the same year as birth, 1615, but had a wife and another family with many children; not a likely scenario.
- I have now adjusted things this way: I created a new Person:John Ingersoll (34) and transferred the wife-family and the children-(unknown wife)-family to that new John. This preserves the original associate that was present before the merge. --robert.shaw 19:15, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- My guess is that someone researching Deborah Larabee nee Ingersoll decided she was child of a John who had the listed other children, and who had a wife Deborah. Probably a will, and didn't want to claim Deborah as the mother of the children, so listed her in a separate family. Someone assigned this John to be a child of Richard Ingersoll. That Richard was recently merged with this Richard, and the John got merged with one of the two existing Johns under the target Richard, the one that died as an infant. I suspect the correct John for Deborah Larabee's father is George's son John, who married Deborah Gunnison, but I have no evidence of that so I did not assign that existing John, instead creating the new John. --robert.shaw 19:24, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- Didn't see the marriages because they had no date, and since born and died 1615, didn't scroll, was also responding to "Avery book does not mention two sons named John". The father John is John(2) of Gen. Dict. of Maine and NH, p. 368. His children include Deborah m. Benjamin Larrabee, Elisha Nathaniel, John, Ephraim, Abigail, Rachel, "a dau., m. John Brown", Mary. There is a partially populated family page at Family:John Ingersol and Deborah Gunnison (1) but I don't know where the other children come from. That family had no Richard, no Ruth, no Samuel, no Sarah (except for unnamed daughter). I assume the other page is meant to be his son John because the elder John only married once. The son's first wife was Deborah Phoenix, he is John(5) in GDMNH and his page is Person:John Ingersol (2). --Jrich 19:46, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, that cleared it up as far as the immigrant Richard's page. I removed the Avery source from John b/d 1615 since he isn't mentioned there. Having immigrant's pages in good order seems to me a good intermediate goal for WR.--Prcb 21:30, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
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