Person talk:Frederick Starnes (1)

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The following summarizes treatment of Frederick Starnes and wife Mary Goldman on Ancestry family Trees

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From Frost, Gilchrist and Related Families Well documented work though based on tertiary sources.

(1) Kimball, Sterling O., The Mohawk Valley Starings and Allied Families, Herkimer County Historical Society, Herkimer, NY: 1998:

3 Frederick Staring aka Starnes b c1700, d 1774; m c1722 Mary Goldman, d/Conrad

Children: Staring 2nd generation born in Albany Co., NY (SOK)

30 Valentine b c 1722 Schoharie, (Schoharie Co) d Mar 1761; PA, m Jean

31 Frederich b c 1724 German Flatts, (Herkimer Co), d 7 Apr 1779, killed by Indians near Boonesborough, KY; m Mary

32 Leonard b c 1726 German Flatts, d 1782 Washington Co, VA

33 Joseph b c 1730 German Flatts, d 7 Apr 1779, killed by Indians with Frederick; m Katherine

34 Adam b c 1732 German Flatts, d 1816 in TN

35 Thomas b c 1734 German Flatts, d 1818 NC

36 Sarah b c 1738 German Flatts, d 1820; m Jacob Myers

Frederich Staring's name does not appear very often in the records. He was a boy when he arrived in New York & later went to Pennsylvania. It shows up first in the Barnetsfield Patent when he was assigned lot 24 on the north side of the Mohawk River. It consisted of thirty acres on "the great flatts" (now in Herkimer, NY) & a seventy acre wood lot.

Frederick Starn, Ensign, was on a list of the Albany Co. Militia, 17 Nov 1733, found in "Annual Report of the State Historian", Vol.1, 1896. Colonial Series, p 572.

When the STARNES genealogy was published in 1983 it was thought that Frederick had left the Mohawk Valley by 1739 but it was not known where in Pennsylvania he had settled. Since publication of the book Rev. Partee Boliak of Phoenix, MD (a Starnes descendant) found a record in Washington, DC, noted below.

H. Gerald Starnes, co-author of the above named book, reported in the "STA Newsletter" of October 1992, quoting from the minutes of the Provincial Council (PA) that "About the year 1740 or 41, one Frederick Star(n), a German, with two or three of his countrymen, made some small settlements at the very same place which were discovered by the Delewares . . . in 1742. . . ." Since this land had not been sold by the Indians, they complained to the Pennsylvania government & the settlers were removed in June 1743. This land was located about thirty miles northwest of Harrisburg, PA near Thompsontown, Juniata Co.

In the spring of the next year Frederick located on the New River near Radford, VA. A historical marker was dedicated to him & his wife on the lawn of the Radford Public Library on 27 June 1992 by the Starnes/Starns Triennial Association.

Frederick's name appears in the partition of Gertrude Petrie's Burnetsfield patent lot 17, recorded in Oneida Co, NY, Deed Book two, page one, on 1 Nov 1793. He was identified as one of the original proprietors of the patent & was assigned lots numbered 6 in the partition. This identifies Frederick as the third original immigrant.

Valentine, Frederick's first born son, was assigned lot 6 adjacent to his father's lot in the Burnetsfield Patent. In Pennsylvania he had land on the Juniata River & was able to remain on it when his father moved the family to Virginia. When he died he willed one hundred acres to his brother Frederick's son John Starns.

The information about this family is from "Of Them That Left a Name Behind--A History of the STARNES Family" except as indicated otherwise. Much additional data will be found in that genealogy.

(2) Steelman, Sanford, The Starnes Family Four Generation Project <http://www.trellis.net/steel/sta/fourgen.htm>:

THE DESCENDANTS OF FREDERICK STARNES

Frederick Starnes (born ca 1700, died ca 1774) married Mary Goldman (born ca _____, died _____). Their children:

1. Valentine Starnes (born ca 1722, died 1761) married Jean _____ (born ca _____, died ca _____). . . .

2. Frederick Starnes, Jr. (born ca 1724, died April 7, 1779) married Mary _____. . . .

3. Leonard Starnes (born ca 1726, died 1782) married _____. . . .

4. Joseph Starnes (born ca 1730, died April 7, 1779) married _____. . . .

5. Adam Starnes (born ca 1732, died ca 1816) married Caroline Carlock??? . . . .

6. Thomas Starnes (born ca 1734, died 1818). . . .

(3) Starnes, H. Gerald & Starnes, Herman, Of Them That Left a Name Behind--A History of the Starnes Family, Baltimore, MD, Gateway Press, 1983, p. 69:

STARN

Frederick Starn (Stern, Stearn, Starnes) was one of the earliest adventurers on New River. When James Patton selected 500 acres on the west side of the New liver in 1746, he designated the survey as AThe Starn place in the bend of the River. The Patton-Preston notebook records that Frederick Stearn, Sr. entered 100 acres with Buchanan in 1744, in addition to 100 acres with Mr. Poge (Poage) in 1754, and 400 more. Interest was charged from 1749. Further evidence of Starn's early arrival on New River is recorded in the Wood's River Entry Book in the following words: "Octo. 24, 1745, Frederick Starn settled last spring by ye River. I was told he intended to take 400 acres." The same book records that on March 12,1747, Frederick Stern, Sr. entered 200 acres on "ye mouth of Crab Creek, and Frederick Stern, Jr., 200 acres below the little Horse Shoe" (Augusta County Survey Book 1; Patton-Preston Account Book; Wood's River Entry Book, Filson Club).

In 1750 Stern had three additional surveys made, one on Crab Creek, 15 acres on the west side of the New River opposite where he was then living, and another on Falling Spring (Augusta County Survey Book 1; see Kegley and Kegley, Early Adventurers, 1, 181).

In 1751 Starn served as executor of the estate of Jacob Goldman deceased. In 1753 he appeared as a road worker on a road which stretched from Samuel Stalnaker's on the Holston to James Davis' on the head of the Holston. This would seem to indicate that he was living on the lands in the Holston neighborhood, although this could have been Frederick, Jr. Nevertheless, on July 3, 1755, Frederick Starn was one of the many settlers on New River who were wounded by Indians. This no doubt caused Starn to abandon the settlement until less troubled times returned (Chalkley, Chronicles, I, 61; II, 510; III, 21).

In 1767 Starn appears again as a settler on New River. This time he is mentioned in a road petition covering the area between Vause's and Peak Creek by way of Ingles' Ferry. He also appears as one of the appraisers of the estate of James Carty deceased, and was one of those attending the sale in 1768 (Chalkley, Chronicles, I, 132; III, 104, 106).

The 500 acres in the bend of the River were transferred to John Taylor in 1767, and the lands on Crab Creek across the River were sold the following year to George Teeter.

Stern next appears on the Holston River. In 1774 he selected lands on the Middle Fork of that River, where he appears to have remained the rest of his life (Chalkley, Chronicles, III, 117, 474; Summers, Annals, p. 62). Frederick, Jr. mentioned in 1747, Thomas Starn mentioned in 1774, and the John and Nicholas mentioned in 1782 were other family members (Summers, Annals, pp. 1022, 1344; Washington County Will Book 1, p. 57; Fincastle and Washington County Surveys).

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