Person talk:Claes Van Schouw (1)

From Claes Cornelissen (1): Merging duplicates [30 December 2012]

If this is a duplicate page, it would be best to merge the two rather than delete this one. The reason is that during the merge process, watchers of both pages will be combined. --Jennifer (JBS66) 06:40, 30 December 2012 (EST)

That is an excellent point. However, by the time that you stripe out the bogus marriage, the false birth date, and change the spelling of the name, there isn't going to be much left except the watchers! Can I go back and edit out that template without messing anything else up?

You are right about that, but at least they will then be watching a much improved page  :-)! Yes, you can remove the Speedy Delete template without a problem. --Jennifer (JBS66) 11:33, 30 December 2012 (EST)

I did manage to remove the template from the person page. I also moved the bogus marriage information on the family page but forgot to take the speedy delete off the family page. Now that page is no longer available for me to go back and edit out the template. Hope that will not cause too much trouble for you.

It looks like you did remove the SD from Family:Claes Cornelissen and Margaret Van Der Goes (1). If you need help merging that page with Family:Claes Van Schouw and Unknown (1), just let me know. --Jennifer (JBS66) 12:53, 30 December 2012 (EST)

Ok. If I need help on that I will hollar for you. But now I have different question: Margaret Van Der Goes was a complete fiction. That I know. But what I don't know is whether or not her parents were. Often times in a fraud like this, the fraudster will insert his fictitious person into a legitimate lineage. Since I don't know if the supposed parents of Margaret are real or not, should I just leave them or do we delete them?

From Claes Cornelissen (1): Help with merge [2 January 2013]

Jennifer, I am indeed having trouble with the merge. The pages for this guy are showing up as semi-protected and no matter which way I do it, I can't seem to merge him into Claes Cornelissen van Schouw. The van Schouw fellow is the one I wish to keep and this guy needs to be merged into him, not the other way around. What am I doing wrong?--Renee Dauven 21:58, 1 January 2013 (EST)

I think what happened was the page for the wrong Claes had over 5 watchers which caused it to be semi-protected. The general assumption is that pages with more watchers are more apt to contain better data (with more people contributing to the page). As with any system, it's not 100% perfect - so a user with Admin rights can override that. So, I merged the two families into Family:Claes Van Schouw and Unknown (1).

Regarding your question above (sorry, I didn't see it before) - I believe you did the right thing to mark Margaret's pages for SD. You may want to add a note to Claes' Family page mentioning the bogus marriage data that exists in other publications. On a related note, there has been recent activity on a set of proposals for handling pages where data has been disputed. There may be some ideas here for future use WeRelate:Suggestions/Assertions. --Jennifer (JBS66) 12:47, 2 January 2013 (EST)

Possible immigration [27 January 2013]

Claes Cornelisz might have immigrated in 1633 and came possibly from the Island from Schouwen (brouwershaven)and I think his birthdate was FEB 1606 but this needs to be verified --henk 09:22, 27 January 2013 (EST)