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Sam Houston Smith, (undocumented)
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m. ABT 1816
  1. Sam Houston Smith, (undocumented)
  2. Captain Henry Madison Smith1817 - 1882
  3. Sarah Elvina Smith1818 - 1902
  4. Unknown Female Smithbef 1820 - bef 1830
  5. Frances E. SmithABT 1823 - BEF 1854
  6. Joseph P. SmithABT 1825 - ABT 1860
  7. Andrew Jackson SmithABT 1826 - BEF 1880
  8. Isaac Newton SmithABT 1828 -
  9. James Smith, (undocumented)BEF 1830 -
  10. William Jasper Smith1830 - 1894
  11. Francis Marion SmithABT 1833 - aft 1855
  12. Barsheba H. SmithABT 1834 - 1904
  13. Birt H. SmithABT 1837 - 1863
Facts and Events
Name Sam Houston Smith, (undocumented)
Gender Male
Birth[1]

challenged parents: James Smith and Hannah Parker (1)

There is a Sam Houston Smith listed as a son of General James & Hannah Parker Smith in the book: War of 1812 Veterans in Texas by Mary Smith Fae. She wrote that Sam Houston Smith married Pamela Coates. This author also has the incorrect parents for General James Smith. There is no documentation in the book telling where she got her information.

Rusk probate has a Susan B. Coats with a Oliver P. Coats and Martha & et al 1856 . p. 313 it says there are Coats and Coats land in Carroll Co. MS

1870 census for Carroll Co. MS lists a Samuel H. Smith 5 years old born MS with his mother P. G. 40 AL There is a James and a Sarah and I think a John--can't really read that name. There is a 3 year old, too so the father prob died between 1867-1870

The probate records stop in the books in 1868! There are only 3 or 4 books in Carroll Co. There were too many Samuel Smiths in MS in 1860 census for my time today to check [all of the children were born in MS and there was a 18 year old.] There was a William B. Coats and wife Susan in 1852 in the Carroll County Chauncery minute book 1 There is not a Sam Houston Smith or any combination of those names who received any inheritance from General James Smith, and he is not found in census records or any other probates other than a reference to a Sam Smith in the annual report voucher #10 paid from the estate of Thomas & Frances Smith Timmons decd, daughter of General James Smith. Estate of Mary A. Timmons et. al. p. 424 filed Jan 28, 1858. It is unknown whether this Sam Smith is the Sam Houston Smith who is supposed to be the son of General James & Hannah Parker Smith.

Census records: There is no son Sam Houston Smith in this 1820 census.

1820 1820 Federal Census of Lincoln County, Tennessee.

  1. 38.9 James Smith
      	 1 male under 10 years (Henry M. Smith b 17 Nov 1817)
       	1 male 26 to 45 years (James Smith)
       	2 females under 10 years (Sarah Elvina Smith b.18 Dec 1818, Frances Smith b. abt 1823)
      	 2 females 16 to 26 years (Hannah Parker & her sister Sarah?)


Ken Smith on his website has the James Smith family in the 1830 Lincoln County, Tennessee, Federal Census with these names:

  • 272 James Smith family: [There is no Sam Houston Smith]

3 males under 5 years (William Jasper Smith b 28 Mar 1830, Isaac Newton Smith b. abt 1828, Andrew Jackson. Smith b. abt 1826)

     	 1 male 5 to 10 years (Joseph M. Smith b abt 1825)
1 male 10 to 15 years (James Smith)  b.1815-1820 * questions-what sources? Could this be someone else, or was he born just after the last census and died before the family went to Texas?
      	1 male 15 to 20 years (Henry M. Smith b 17 Nov 1817)
      	1 male 30 to 40 years (James Smith)
      	1 female 5 to 10 years (Frances Smith b. abt 1823)
     	 1 female 10 to 15 years (Sarah Elvina Smith b.18 Dec 1818)

Census records: There is no son Sam Houston Smith in this 1820 census.

1820 1820 Federal Census of Lincoln County, Tennessee.

  1. 38.9 James Smith
      	 1 male under 10 years (Henry M. Smith b 17 Nov 1817)
       	1 male 26 to 45 years (James Smith)
       	2 females under 10 years (Sarah Elvina Smith b.18 Dec 1818, Frances Smith b. abt 1823)
      	 2 females 16 to 26 years (Hannah Parker & her sister Sarah?)


Ken Smith on his website has the James Smith family in the 1830 Lincoln County, Tennessee, Federal Census with these names:

  • 272 James Smith family: [There is no Sam Houston Smith]

3 males under 5 years (William Jasper Smith b 28 Mar 1830, Isaac Newton Smith b. abt 1828, Andrew Jackson. Smith b. abt 1826)

     	 1 male 5 to 10 years (Joseph M. Smith b abt 1825)
1 male 10 to 15 years (James Smith)  b.1815-1820 * questions-what sources? Could this be someone else, or was he born just after the last census and died before the family went to Texas?
      	1 male 15 to 20 years (Henry M. Smith b 17 Nov 1817)
      	1 male 30 to 40 years (James Smith)
      	1 female 5 to 10 years (Frances Smith b. abt 1823)
     	 1 female 10 to 15 years (Sarah Elvina Smith b.18 Dec 1818)

Rusk probate has a Susan B. Coats with a Oliver P. Coats and Martha & et al 1856 . p. 313 it says there are Coats and Coats land in Carroll Co. MS

1870 census for Carroll Co. MS lists a Samuel H. Smith 5 years old born MS with his mother P. G. 40 AL There is a James and a Sarah and I think a John--can't really read that name. There is a 3 year old, too so the father prob died between 1867-1870

The probate records stop in the books in 1868! There are only 3 or 4 books in Carroll Co. There were too many Samuel Smiths in MS in 1860 census for my time today to check [all of the children were born in MS and there was a 18 year old.] There was a William B. Coats and wife Susan in 1852 in the Carroll County Chauncery minute book 1 There is not a Sam Houston Smith or any combination of those names who received any inheritance from General James Smith, and he is not found in census records or any other probates other than a reference to a Sam Smith in the annual report voucher #10 paid from the estate of Thomas & Frances Smith Timmons decd, daughter of General James Smith. Estate of Mary A. Timmons et. al. p. 424 filed Jan 28, 1858. It is unknown whether this Sam Smith is the Sam Houston Smith who is supposed to be the son of General James & Hannah Parker Smith.

1820 1820 Federal Census of Lincoln County, Tennessee.

  1. 38.9 James Smith
      	 1 male under 10 years (Henry M. Smith b 17 Nov 1817)
       	1 male 26 to 45 years (James Smith)
       	2 females under 10 years (Sarah Elvina Smith b.18 Dec 1818, Frances Smith b. abt 1823)
      	 2 females 16 to 26 years (Hannah Parker & her sister Sarah?)
  • 272 James Smith family: [There is no Sam Houston Smith]

3 males under 5 years (William Jasper Smith b 28 Mar 1830, Isaac Newton Smith b. abt 1828, Andrew Jackson. Smith b. abt 1826)

     	 1 male 5 to 10 years (Joseph M. Smith b abt 1825)
1 male 10 to 15 years (James Smith)  b.1815-1820 * questions-what sources? Could this be someone else, or was he born just after the last census and died before the family went to Texas?
      	1 male 15 to 20 years (Henry M. Smith b 17 Nov 1817)
      	1 male 30 to 40 years (James Smith)
      	1 female 5 to 10 years (Frances Smith b. abt 1823)
     	 1 female 10 to 15 years (Sarah Elvina Smith b.18 Dec 1818)

1820 1820 Federal Census of Lincoln County, Tennessee.

  1. 38.9 James Smith
      	 1 male under 10 years (Henry M. Smith b 17 Nov 1817)
       	1 male 26 to 45 years (James Smith)
       	2 females under 10 years (Sarah Elvina Smith b.18 Dec 1818, Frances Smith b. abt 1823)
      	 2 females 16 to 26 years (Hannah Parker & her sister Sarah?)
  • 272 James Smith family: [There is no Sam Houston Smith]

3 males under 5 years (William Jasper Smith b 28 Mar 1830, Isaac Newton Smith b. abt 1828, Andrew Jackson. Smith b. abt 1826)

     	 1 male 5 to 10 years (Joseph M. Smith b abt 1825)
1 male 10 to 15 years (James Smith)  b.1815-1820 * questions-what sources? Could this be someone else, or was he born just after the last census and died before the family went to Texas?
      	1 male 15 to 20 years (Henry M. Smith b 17 Nov 1817)
      	1 male 30 to 40 years (James Smith)
      	1 female 5 to 10 years (Frances Smith b. abt 1823)
     	 1 female 10 to 15 years (Sarah Elvina Smith b.18 Dec 1818)
References
  1. Book, War of 1812 Veterans.

    Sam Houston Smith is listed in the book: The War of 1812 Veterans in Texas by Mary Smith Fae, but there are no other documents to support his existence.

    She wrote that Sam Houston Smith married Pamela Coates, but we cannot find a record of her or their marriage. This author also has the incorrect parents for General James SMITH. There is no documentation in the book telling where she got her information for this son. Other sources also have a Sam Houston SMITH listed as a child of James & Hannah Smith, but they may have gotten the information from the book by Mary Smith Fae.

    Ken Smith also has a Sam Houston Smith with Pamela Coats on his website, but he doesn't put his sources for that information.

    There is not a Sam Houston SMITH or any combination of those names who received any inheritance from General James SMITH, and he is not found in census records or any other probates other than a reference to a Sam SMITH in the annual report voucher #10 paid from the estate of Thomas & Frances SMITH TIMMONS decd, daughter of General James SMITH. Estate of Mary A. TIMMONS et. al. p. 424 filed Jan 28, 1858. It is unknown whether this Sam SMITH is the Sam Houston SMITH who is supposed to be the son of General James & Hannah PARKER SMITH.

    Census records: There is no son Sam Houston SMITH in this 1820 census.

    1820 Federal Census of Lincoln County, Tennessee.
    #38.9 James SMITH
    1 male under 10 years (Henry M. SMITH b 17 Nov 1817)
    1 male 26 to 45 years (James SMITH)
    2 females under 10 years (Sarah Elvina SMITH b.18 Dec 1818, and unknown daughter. if the 1850 census is incorrect and this is Frances Smith.)
    2 females 16 to 26 years (Hannah PARKER SMITH & her sister Sarah "Sally" PARKER?)

    Ken SMITH has the James SMITH family in the 1830 Lincoln County, Tennessee, Federal Census with these names:

    * 272 James SMITH family: [There is no Sam Houston SMITH unless he is the unknown male child 10 - 15 years old. in this 1830 census and was born just after the 1820 census, making him 10 in the 1830 census. The 1840 census does not list anyone but the head of household.] He also is not listed in the 1839 Quit Claim deed. There is also an undocumented James Smith who would have been his brother. There is no firm proof of either of these children.]

    3 males under 5 years (William Jasper SMITH b 28 Mar 1830, Isaac Newton SMITH b. abt 1828, Andrew Jackson. SMITH b. abt 1826)
    1 male 5 to 10 years (Joseph M. SMITH b abt 1825)
    1 male 10 to 15 years (James SMITH) b.1815-1820 * questions-what sources? Could this be someone else, or was he born just after the last census and died fairly young?
    1 male 15 to 20 years (Henry M. SMITH b 17 Nov 1817)
    1 male 30 to 40 years (James SMITH)
    1 female 5 to 10 years (Frances SMITH b. abt 1823)
    1 female 10 to 15 years (Sarah Elvina SMITH b.18 Dec 1818)
    1 female 30 to 40 years (Hannah PARKER SMITH)

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    If Sam SMITH is a child of the SMITH family, he would have had to been born just after the 1830 census and moved out before the 1850 census. Or born after October 1839 because he was not named in James SMITH's deed to his family 15 Oct 1839. He would have had to move out before the 1850 census in either case.
    Republic of Texas, County of Nacogdoches
    . . .fifteenth day of October one thousand, eight hundred and thirty nine before the undersigned witnesses personally appeared James SMITH who declared that for and in consideration of the sum of four thousand dollars to him in hand paid by Hannah SMITH his wife, Birt H SMITH, Maddison H SMITH, Sarah Crain, Frances TIMMONS, Joseph P SMITH, Jackson SMITH, Isaac Newton SMITH, Jasper SMITH, Marion SMITH and Barshaba SMITH . . . granted, bargained, sold, assigned, conveyed and confirmed and by these presents doth grant, bargain, sell, alien [sic] and convey to the said parties last named all that tract or parcil [sic] of land, situate in the County of Nacogdoches, at and including a place called big Shawnee Town containing one league and one labor of land, surveyed by A. S. Hamilton as the headright of the said James SMITH on the twenty third day of February one thousand eight hundred, and thirty eight,. . the said Hannah SMITH, Birt H. SMITH, Maddison H. SMITH, Sarah Crain, Frances TIMMONS, Joseph P. SMITH, Jackson SMITH, Isaac Newton SMITH, Jasper SMITH, Marion SMITH and Barshaba SMITH their heirs and assigns forever. . .Six hundred and forty acres each to Birt H. SMITH and Hannah SMITH, the remainder to be divided equally between the other venders according to quantity and quality. . .signed by Jos' Cook and Thomas J. Rusk.
    Transcribed by Shirley SMITH

    There is no son Sam Houston Smith's age in the 1850 census:
    1850 - Rusk Texas census page 501 family 35 lines 13-17 [the x is attending school]
    13 35 35 SMITH James 56 M W Farmer 6,300 SC
    14 35 35 SMITH Hannah 47 F W SC
    [birth differs from 1860 census]
    Daughter of Isaiah and Elizabeth "Betsy" Guyton PARKER
    15 35 35 SMITH Wm Jasper 22 M W TN
    16 35 35 SMITH Marion 17 M W TN X
    17 35 35 SMITH Burt 13 M W TX X
    [James SMITH, a possible son of James & Hannah (born maybe about 1820 in Tennessee) is not living with his parents in this census. He is not well documented in the family.]

    The book War of 1812 Veterans in Texas by Mary SMITH FAE, states that Sam Houston Smith married a Coates girl, but no researcher we have been in contact with have found her, either..

    No Sam Houston Smith listed in this 1855 Court document:

    Deed of Release of SMITH family slaves- 12 Dec 1855
    by Andrew Jackson SMITH to his mother and siblings
    Rusk Co. Deeds Book J Pg 461 The State of Texas County of Rusk

    . . .all of whom except Hanah SMITH my mother are my brothers and sisters and the heirs of Thomas TIMMONS are the children of my deceased sister Frances TIMMONS have this day granted bargained sold and released, and by these presents, do grant, bargain sell and release unto Hanah SMITH my mother, H. M. SMITH, Sarah Crain, J. P. SMITH, I. N. SMITH, W. J. SMITH, F. M. SMITH, Barshaby Morehead, B. H. SMITH, all my brothers and sisters, and

    Mary A., Hannah & Ann TIMMONS the children of my deceased sister Frances Christie all of said county and State. .

    Sam Houston SMITH is also not listed as an heir in the Quit Claim Deed of Release of Slaves from the estate of Hannah PARKER SMITH in October 1864.

    A.J. Smith, guardian of J. P. Smith heirs [Andrew Jackson Smith, guardian of Joseph P. Smith heirs: James J. Smith, John Thomas Smith, Texana Smith, and Delila Smith]; I.N. Smith [Isaac Newton Smith]; I.N. Smith as guardian of heirs Timmons and Morehead [Isaac Newton Smith as guardian of Frances Smith Timmon's living children (two had already died): Hannah Ann Timmons and possibly Barsheba Ann Timmons. The Barsheba Smith Morehead heir was F. Elizabeth Moorhead or Morehead] ; Sarah Crain [Sarah Elvina Smith Crain, wife of Joel N. Crain]; H. Smith, agent [Henry Madison Smith]; Mary M. Smith, guardian of F. M. Smith heirs

    Rusk County, Texas, Deed Book P page 240

    In book: War of 1812 Vets- undocumented