Person:John Foss (3)

John Foss
  1. John Foss1633 - Aft 1710
  • HJohn Foss1633 - Aft 1710
  • WMary Berry1644 - Aft 1701
m. 1658
  1. John FossAbt 1660 - 1752
  2. Samuel FossEst 1661 -
  3. Elizabeth Foss1666 - 1746
  4. Martha FossEst 1670 - Aft 1738
  5. Thomas FossEst 1671 - Bef 1710
  6. William FossEst 1675 - 1718
  7. Zachariah FossEst 1676 - Bef 1749
  8. Hannah Foss1681 - Bef 1718
  9. Joshua Foss1681 - 1780
Facts and Events
Name John Foss
Alt Name[2] Johann Foss
Gender Male
Christening[5] 24 Nov 1633 Paignton, Devonshire, England
Marriage 1658 Of Rockingham, N.h.to Mary Berry
Death[3] Aft 13 Sep 1710 Newcastle, Rockingham, New Hampshire
Ancestral File Number 9KHS-9V

Please note the parents shown lack evidence. See NEHGR 144:33 for further discussion. The alternate name Johann comes from fraudulent information published by Guy S. Rix. There is no evidence that his name was anything other than John.

Please do not conflate these three men:

  1. Johan Foss baptized 3 Jan 1639 in Ribe, Denmark
  2. John1 Foss of Rye Calker
  3. John1 Fost of England and Dover Tailor Attorney

They are not identical. Johan Foss of Denmark was conflated with the American immigrant by Guy Scoby Rix as part of a well known genealogical fraud. Guy Scoby Rix published many frauds (google Guy Scoby Rix and fraud and you can read about him). There is no relationship. There were two immigrants to New England 1) John1 Foss of Rye, NH, Calker, who married Mary Berry as his only wife. He is the person who is said to have jumped from a British war ship. He died after 13 September 1710 when he signed a deed-will with Mary Chadbourne naming his sons John, Joshua and Zachariah. 2) John1 Fost of England and Dover, NH Tailor & Attorney who married first Mary Chadbourne and second Elizabeth (Crawford) Goffe. John Fost made his will on 17 Dec 1699 and died "1699 Dec. 18. John Foss y e taylor deceased after half years sickness with yellow Jaundice." [NHGR 3:97]. Both men had sons named William2. In his will John1 Fost named his son William2 Fost "I will and bequeath to my Son william one Shilling and also fourty acers of land that was granted me by the towne of dover." William2 Fost born Dover NH 11 Mar 1673/4 (Dover VR, 40, recorded with the births of the children of his third wife); d Dover after 1738; married first before 1 Nov 1692 (LND, 443) MARGERY LORD, daughter of Nathan and Martha (Everett) Lord; married second Dover 26 Apr 1703 (Dover VR, 130) SARAH (FERNSIDE) HEARD, daughter of John and Elizabeth (Starr) Fernside and widow of Nathaniel (LND, 231); married third, probably circa 1727 (LND, 241) MARY (HORNE) HANSON, daughter of John Horne, widow of Benjamin Hanson (LND, 349; Dover VR, 13). William and Margery were presented at court for fornication on 1 Nov 1692 (YD 5:2:16, 21, 35). The other John1 Foss of Rye Calker's son William2 Foss was the one who married Sarah Buswell. Of William2 Foss Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire writes: "WILLIAM (1). Lists 315e, 338a. He d. bef. 12 Dec. 1718. One Wm. (Foss) was accu. in the Sessions Court Mar. 1717-8 by Elizabeth Bird of Dover or Cochecho. He m. at Hampt. Falls 29 Nov. 1700 Sarah Buswell, b. 29 Nov. 1676, stepd. of Wm. Fuller (6). List 338b. Kn. ch:" You can find good information abut John Fost's family on Chadbourne.org. Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire has accurate information about both families.

References
  1.   Noyes, Sybil; Charles Thornton Libby; and Walter Goodwin Davis. Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire. (Portland, Maine: Southworth Press, 1928-1939).

    JOHN, Rye Beach, ± 30 in 1666, ± 46 in 1680, first app. in division of 1661 as of 1657, likely in his wife’s right. In 1668 he bot John Warren’s stake in the Shrewsbury Patent, and in 1675 defended it in a suit against Richard Morgan. Gr.j. 1675, 1678, 1681,1692. Innholder 1694-1698. Selectman 1698. Lists 326a, 330c, 318c, 323, 312cd, 313a, 315bc, 316, 49, 52, 57. He m. Mary Berry (12), grantor with him in 1673, liv. (or his son’s w.) in 1700. See Marden (2). His grs. Joshua, 1709-1809, as told by his grs. Jacob D., b. 1784, writing in 1854, gave his story. A calker, he deserted a British warship in Boston harbor, came to Rye, where he found a wife; Foss and Fost are two distinct names; he raised up 12 ch. who had families. Of this number, by taking every Foss in sight (not Fosts) we make but 10. His deed-will, 13 Sep. 1710, ment. by name only John, Joshua and Zachariah. Ch:
    # John, b. ab. 1660.
    # Elizabeth, b. 1666, m. Nathl. Batchelder (4).
    # Samuel.
    # Martha, m. by Dec. 1693 Richard Goss.
    # Thomas.
    # William.
    # Joshua.
    # Zachariah.
    # Hannah, mar. in June 1702 John Jenness.
    # Richard, likely a grandson (not son as claimed by some)., wit. in 1713 with Wm. Wallis, Newcastle. In 1745 one Richard, of Portsmouth, gave P.A. to wife Sarah. See Neale (8).

  2. Lane Memorial Library, Hampton, New Hampshire. Lane Memorial Library, Hampton, New Hampshire. Hampton Genealogy Database.

    link Birth: BEF 25 NOV 1633 in England
    Christening: 24 NOV 1633 Paignton, Devonshire, England
    Death: AFT 13 SEP 1710 in Rye, N.H.
    Note:

    John, a calker, and Mary had at least nine children, possibly 12. The order of the births of these children is different than that given by GDMNH which does not provide their dates of birth (other than estimates for John and Elizabeth). A Foss genealogy published by a Guy Scoby Rix in 1912 erroneously claims that John was from Denmark. Noyes/Libby/Davis, "Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire," (1939), pp. 240 and 270; Plummer, John, "Two John Jacksons from Darmouth, Devon," (1990, NEH&GR), v. 144, p. 33, #5-i for Plummer's explanation as to why he believes this John was related to the JACKSON family. Foss, Joseph A., Jr., "Benjamin Foss of Machias, Maine, c. 1741-1830, his ancestors and descendants," (Foss Genealogical Research, 1993), LC Control #93136856

  3. John Foss, in Roberts, Jeanie. Jeanieology Blog.

    link web article on ancestry of John Foss of Rye and John Fost of Dover.
    Marriage 1 Mary BERRY b: ABT 1641 in Portsmouth, N.H.
    Married: By 1659 in Rye, N.H.
    Children
    Has Children John FOSS b: ABT 1660 in Greenland, N.H.
    Has Children Elizabeth FOSS b: 1666
    Has Children Samuel FOSS b: ABT 1668
    Has Children Martha FOSS b: ABT 1672
    Has Children Thomas FOSS b: ABT 1672
    Has Children William FOSS b: 11 Mar 1672/73
    Has Children Joshua FOSS
    Has No Children Zachariah FOSS b: ABT 1678
    Has Children Hannah FOSS b: 1682
    Has No Children Richard FOSS [But see note in GDMNH likely grandson not son]

    John Foss, b. 1633 Paignton, Devon, England, d. 1710-1716
    Married: Mary Berry, d. between 1707 and 1710
    Children:
    John b. abt. 1660
    Elizabeth b. abt. 1666
    Samuel b. abt. 1668
    Martha b. abt. 1672
    Thomas
    William b. 11 March 1672/72
    Zachariah b. abt. 1678
    Hannah b. abt. 1682
    Joshua

    Don't confuse hims with John Fost: John Fost of Dover, b. Unknown, d. 1699
    Married (1) Mary Chadborne, perhaps by June of 1674 (2) Sarah (Crawford) Goss
    Children:
    Mary b. abt. 1666, m. James Warren
    Humphrey
    William b. 11 March 1673
    Jeminah
    Elizabeth
    Samuel

  4.   , in Rockingham County Registry of Deeds
    Vol. 9, p. 419 , 13 Sept. 1710.

    link search > Foss, Jno. > 419> John to Joshua.

  5. John Plumer, "Two John Jacksons from Dartmouth", , in Alicia Crane Williams. Early New England Families, 1641-1700. (New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2013)
    144:33, January 1990.

    John Fosse, son of Steven Fosse and Mary Jackson, and great nephew of John Jackson immigrant to New Hampshire, was the John Foss of Rye. The Jackson Foss families lived in Paignton, Devon, England, which is a coastal town, and adds credence to the story of John being a caulker on a ship. Still, the article does not offer any concrete evidence that John Foss of Devon was in fact John Foss of Rye, but it sounds promising.

  6.   New Hampshire; Albert Stillman Batchellor (ed.); Otis Grant Hammond (ed.); and Henry Harrison Metcalf (ed.). Probate Records of the Province of New Hampshire. (New Hampshire: The State [et al], 1907–1941)
    Vol. 1, 1635-1717, State Papers Series, Vol. 31, 320.
  7.   Wright, Helen Marion Locke. The Ancestry of Helen Marion (Locke) Wright . (Boston, Massachusetts: Newbury Street Press, 2011)
    37 # 160/1.

    John1 Foss born in England about 1634-1636 (aged about 30 in 1666 and 46 in 1680) and died probably in Rye, New Hampshire, after 13 September 1710 (deed-will). He married probably in Rye by say 1659 (child born 1660) Mary Berry. He immigrated by 1657, when he located in Rye. Mary2 Berry (John1) was born say 1639 (estimating marriage at 20) and died after 12 Feb 1706/7 (deposition New Hampshire Probate 1:580-81).

    The author discusses the previous treatment of this family and conflation with the Fost family in GDMNH 240; Savage 2:185; Stearne's New Hampshire 4:1949-52; NH Probate 32:450; Parsons Rye 380

  8.   17. MARY3 CHADBOURNE , in Chadbourne Family Association. Chadbourne Family Association Website. (Maine: Chadbourne Family Association).

    link See disambiguation under 17. MARY3 CHADBOURNE between John Foss of Rye (this person) and John Fost of Dover who married Mary Chadbourne and left a will in 1699.

  9.   John Foss Deed, in Perley, Sidney, ed. Essex Antiquarian. (Salem, Mass.: Essex Antiquarian)
    12:81.