Person:John Carman (17)

John Carman
b.Bef 1608 England
  1. John CarmanBef 1608 - Bef 1654
  • HJohn CarmanBef 1608 - Bef 1654
  • WFlorence _____Abt 1610 - Abt 1661
m. Abt 1632
  1. John Carman1633 - Aft 1684
  2. Abigail Carman1635 -
  3. Caleb Carman1639 - Bef 1693
  4. Joshua Carman1645 - Aft 1684
Facts and Events
Name[3] John Carman
Gender Male
Birth[1] Bef 1608 England
Immigration[3][1] 1631 Roxbury, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States
Marriage Abt 1632 Roxbury, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United Statesto Florence _____
Religion[1] 1632 Roxbury, (now Suffolk County), Massachusetts Bay Colonyadmitted to the church
Death[1] Bef 29 May 1654 Hempstead, Nassau, New York, United States

Admitted to Roxbury church as member #24, which would be in 1632: "John Carman. He came to N.E. in the year 1631. He brought no children." This is followed by birthdates of three children [RChR 74-75].

References
  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 John Carman, in Anderson, Robert Charles. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-1633. (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995).

    BIRTH: By about 1608 based on birth date of eldest child.
    DEATH: Hempstead by 29 May 1654 (At New Haven court on that date William Leveridge of Oyster Bay "declared that he had bought a certain debt of Mrs. Carman of Hempstead, due from Capt. Silvester," implying that the husband of Mrs. Carman was deceased by that time [NHCR 2:89]).
    MARRIAGE: Wife Florence, joined Roxbury church after husband; since first child was born in July 1633, they could have married in New England. Normally Eliot, when giving more than the name of the head of the family upon admission, would say that he brought a wife with him. Since "Florenc[e] Carman the wife of John Carman" was admitted many places after John Carman (member #62), and among a number of persons who came in 1632, it is likely that she arrived in that year and married Carman very soon [RChR 77]. After her husband's death she married, as his second wife, John Hicks of Hempstead.

  2.   Savage, James. A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England: Showing Three Generations of Those Who Came Before May, 1692, on the Basis of Farmer's Register. (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co, 1860-1862)
    1:335.

    CARMAN, JOHN, Roxbury, came, 1631, prob. with Eliot, in the Lion, by w. Florence had John, b. 8 July 1633; Abigail, 1635; and Caleb, 6 Aug. 1639, wh. d. young; rem. to L. I. and was that patentee of Hempstead whose s. Caleb, b. there 9 Jan. 1646, was blind from b. the first ch. there b. of Europ. parents.

  3. 3.0 3.1 Wood, Arnold. John Wood of Attercliffe, Yorkshire, England and Falls, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, and his descendants in the United States. (New York, New York: [s.n.], 1903)
    29.

    With nice understatement, the author notes, "The Carman family has proved a difficult one to trace", but despite his hopes that he got it right, it turns out that he confused the two John Carman's mentioned by AndersonS1 when he says John Carman "came from Roxbury to Lynn" and on to Stamford, CT, and in 1644 to Hempstead. He is trying to trace descent of Mary who married John Wood (John1 -> John2 -> Caleb3 -> Mary, according to him), so his description of John is brief: m. Florence, three children John, Joshua, Caleb [missing Abigail], died prior to 1658 [or earlierS1].