Person:Frederick Starnes (1)

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Frederick Starnes
d.1774 Virginia
  • HFrederick StarnesAbt 1700 - 1774
  • WMary Goldman1703 - 1742
m. 1722
  1. Frederick Starnes, Jr.1724 - bef 1779
  2. Joseph StarnesABT 1730 - 1779
  3. Adam Starnes1732 - 1816
Facts and Events
Name Frederick Starnes
Gender Male
Birth? Abt. 1700 Prob. Palatinate, Germany
Marriage 1722 to Mary Goldman
Death? 1774 Virginia

Frederick Starnes, Sr.was one of the Early Settlers of Augusta County, Virginia

Contents

Starnes Tapestry
Register
Data.
Notebooks
Analysis
Bibliography
Graphics
YDNA
Index.

……………………..The Tapestry
Families Old Chester OldAugusta Germanna
New River SWVP Cumberland Carolina Cradle
The Smokies Old Kentucky

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Overview

See Starnes Family in Southwest Virgnia for source data.

Immigration

Frederick is said to have been born in Alzey, the Palatinate, Germany about 1700. His father is commonly identified as "Johanne Adam Stering. [1] Source:Starnes and Starnes, 1983 believe Frederick immigrated to this country as a child with his parents during the Palatine Immigration about 1710. The Starnes are said to have settled in the Mohawk Valley of New York, where Frederick grew up and married about 1722. image:Herkimer County, NY.jpg

His wife is commonly identified as Mary Goldman (1703-?). The basis for her identity is not clear, and there are a number of points of confusion concerning her. She is commonly identified as the daughter of Person:Conrad Goldman (1) (1653-1707) another Palatinate immigrant. Her DOM to Frederick is sometimes given as 1733, with the implication that both she and Frederick had been previously married. [2]

Relocation to Tulpehocken

image:Tulpehocken, Berks, PA.jpg Beginning about 1723 a group of Palatinate settlers in the Mohawk Valley became dissatisfied with conditions, and immigrated to Tulpenhocken, Berks County, PA. Their migration and settlement is described in Source:Schmauk, 1902:438 et seq. Frederick is said to have joined them at sometime after the initial settlement. Other relations probably went with him about this time, including, we presume, his brotherinlaw Jacob Goldman.

Documentation of the presence of Frederick Starnes in Tulpenhocken seems to be relatively weak. As one researcher puts it:

No record exists of Frederick's migration from the Mohawk River in New York to the New River in Virginia. It appears that he and his family first went to the Tulpehocken in Pennsylvania for awhile. Source:Starnes and Starnes, 1983 fide The Three Sisters Web Site.

The minutes of the Provincial Council of Pennsylvania have been quoted [3] as stating that "About the year 1740 or 41, one Frederick Star(n), a German, with two or three of his countrymen, made some small settlements at the very same place which were discovered by the Delewares . . . in 1742. . . .", noting that the area was on Indian lands, and that these German families were forced to relocate. The presumption is that "Frederick Star" is in fact "Frederick Starnes" who had come from the Mohawk Valley. The timing of this does not seem to be in agreement with Source:Schmauk, 1902, and the disagreement with the Native Americans over right to the land must have occurred closer to 1723, than to 1740. Certainly by 1740 this question would have been resolved.

To the New River Valley

What we know with some certainty, is that Frederick Starnes settled on the New River in Virginia, by 1743, as there are several land records placing him and his son, Frederick Starnes Jr, in that area by that date. Frederick Starnes, Sr. was among those wounded during an Indian attack in 1755, during the opening of the French and Indian War. Researchers on this line believe that following this he removed from the New River area resettling in the Carolinas.

Carolina Interlude

We are not certain where the Starnes settled when they fled the New River Valley. There are some indications that he moved to Rockbridge, though that area was hardly anymore secure from Indian attacks than the New River area and seems unlikely.[4]

However, an Adam, Joseph, and Leonard Starnes appear in a South Carolina Militia roster during the 1759 Cherokee Expedition. [5] Appearing with them are a "George Carlock, and a "Christ. Harlocker". It seems like that Samuel, Joseph, and Leonard are the sons of Frederick Starnes, as commonly identified in the literature. If so, Christ. Harlocker is probably a corruption of Hanchrist Carlock, and George and Hanchrist Carlock are presumably relations of the Starnes[4], again as commonly identified in the literature.

Return to Virginia

Certainly the Starnes dissappear from the record of the New River Valley until 1767 when Frederick Starnes reappears as a road worker. There is no mention of a "Frederick Sr", or "Frederick, Jr." after 1755, and it seems likely that by 1767 Frederick Sr. had died. By 1768 both the Crab Creek property of Frederick Sr, and the Little Horseshoe (aka "Bend of the River" property of Frederick Jr. have been sold. In 1770 Frederick Starnes appears as a constable on the Holston River, which indicates that he was among the first settlers of the Holston after it was opened up for settlement in 1769. Records for a Frederick Starnes continue to appear in southwest Virginia until 1779, when a man by that name is killed by Indians. It is likely that all of these records refer to Person:Frederick Starnes (2), the son, rather than Person:Frederick Starnes (1) the father.

Timeline

The a timeline for Frederick Starnes of Southwest Virginia as given by some researchers, is given below, amended to distinguish between Frederick Sr, and Frederick Jr:

EventDate(s)LocationComment/Source
Born 1700 Germany
Immigrated 1710 NYC
Settled1710-1712 West Camp NY
Settled 1713-1723 Schoharie NY
Marriage1722Schoharie NYSome place the marriage at c1732; there may have been multiple wives
Settled1723-1741 German Flatts, NY
Settled1741-1743 Juanita River, PA
Settled 1744-1769 New River, VASettled in area in 1744; Source:Kegley, 1982:327-328
Removed1755-??forced to remove from area due to Indian attacks; wounded in attack in 1755. Source:Summers, 1903:59
Died1755-?It is presumed that Frederick Sr. died sometime during the period that the family lived in the Carolina's. Son Frederick Jr. apparently returned to his father's property sometime before 1767; records for "Frederick Starnes" in the New River valley about this time almost certainly refer to Frederick Jr, not Sr.
Settled 1770-1777 Holston River, VAAppointed Constable on the Holston in 1770 Source:Summers, 1903:109; Robertson's extracts give a settlment date for his land on Middle Fork of Holston as 1773. By this approximate date Frederick has left the New River Valley, moving south to the Glade Springs area.
KBI1779"back of the settlements toward Boonesboro". Probably Wise County. KBI; This is clearly a record for Frederick Starnes, Jr. Joseph Starnes Pension Application, dates this to 1779. "The will of Frederick Starnes was proven in Washington Co., VA, on May 18, 1779. Witness to the will was Francis Byrd and Jessee Bounds, both of whom lived in present day Scott Co., VA. Appraisers of the estate were Elisha Dungins, Robert Reaugh, Conrad Hennigar and Jessee Bounds, with the widow, Mary Starnes as Executrix. Children mentioned in the will are sons, Jacob and David Starnes." See Hamilton and Source:Moss, 1990

Personal Data

Personal Data
VitaDatumSource/Basis/Comment
DOB:c1700
POB:Alzey,Palatinate,Germany
DOD:1778Will dated 22 August 1778, recorded 18 May 1779 (Kegley 1982)
POD:Wise County, VAPension application of nephew Jacob indicates his uncle Frederick Starnes was Killed by Indians "back of the settlements towards Boonesborough." Hamilton, in his "Indian Atrocity" series concludes that this meant Wise County. Hamilton, however, seems to have overlooked a portion of Jacob's pernsion statement which explains that he, the lone survivor of the attack, escaped "back to Boonesboro." Other contemporary records to the event also place it in the general Boonesboro area.
Father:
Mother:
Spouse:MaryIdentified in will; Usually identified as Mary Goldman (1703-1742), dau of person:Conrad Goldman (1), though sometimes her father is identified as person:Jacob Goldman (1)
DOM:1722plausible given a DOB of 1703; sometimes given as 1733, though this might imply this was a second marriage, and begs an explanation of the identity of the mother of the younger children of Frederick.
POM:


Name DOB POB DOD POD Spouse DOM POM Dispersion and Notes
Valentine Starnes 1722 NY 1761
Person:Frederick Starnes (2) 1724 Albany, N Y 1779 Remained on the Holston River until KBI'd in 1779
Leonard STARNES 1726 Albany, N Y 1782
Joseph Starnes Abt 1730 1779
Adam Starnes, 1732 NY 1816
Thomas Starnes 1734 Germanflats, N Y 1818.
Sarah Starnes, 1738 N Y 1820


John Starnes,
Jacob Starnes,
David Starnes,


Bibliography

Source:Starnes and Starnes, 1983

Personal Website:Powell Roots And Branches.


Footnotes

  1. Researchers commonly equate the surname "Stering" as the ancestral form of "Starnes". Records in New York apparently use the Stering spelling. Whether this equivalence is justified is not clear.
  2. Mary is sometimes identified as the daughter of Jacob Goldman, son of Conrad. The jacob settled on the New River near Frederick Starnes, and identifies a daughter Mary in his will; it is not clear that this Mary was the wife of Frederick Starnes. Frederick did witness Goldman's will, along with Humphrey Baker, indicating a family connection. However, Mary, daughter of Jacob, is said to have been born c1723, which would make here too young to be the first wife of Frederick Starnes. Court probate records for Frederick Starnes, Jr, son of Person:Frederick Starnes (1) identify his wife as "Mary". It is possible that this "Mary" is Mary Goldman, daughter of Jacob. Records for Frederick Starnes, Sr and Jr. seem to be confused in the literature, and this may have led many to the belief that the wife of Frederick's Sr. was Mary Goldman daughter of Jacob Goldman.
  3. See Frost, Gilchrist and Related Families on Ancestry.com citing H. Gerald Starnes in the "STA Newsletter" of October 1992
  4. 4.0 4.1 Carlock researchers believe that Fredericks Starnes wife was Caroline Carlock, daughter of Daniel Carlock, and sister of Conrad Carlock and Hanschrist Carlock. Conrad and Hanschrist Carlock would eventually settle on Thompson's Creek near Glade Springs, in the same area as Frederick's family would one day settle. Carlock researchers believe the family relations predate their presence on Thompsons Creek, and extend back to the Palatine immigration to New York, and Pennsylvania. Conrad Carlock died with out issue, and left bequests to Samuel and Adam Starnes, sons of his sister Caroline by an unnamed Starnes male. (Source:Carlock, 1929) identifies him as Frederick Starnes. He points to a 1782 tax record of Rockbridge where a "Caroline Carlock Starnes" is supposedly listed, but in point of fact that tax record lists Caroline as simply "Caroline Carlock". While its possible that she is using her maiden name, it seems more likely that this Caroline Carlock is the widow of an unnamed male Carlock, not Starnes.
  5. They appear in Captain Charles Heart's company, under Col. Richard Richardson, from 19 October 1759 to January 10, 1760 Source:Clark, 1983:903


Early Land Acquisition

Acquisition of Land from Chalkley's:


  • Frederick Starns received a patent for 85 acres "on Crab Creek, a branch of New River" on 22 August 1753, per the distribution below:


Disposition of Land from Chalkley's:


  • Page 81.--12th February, 1768. Frederick Starn (Stern) to George Teetar, £10, 85 acres by patent 22d August, 1753, on Crab Creek, a branch of New River. Teste: W. Ingles, William Davis, John Taylor, John and Wm. Buchanan. Sent to George Teeter by his order, April, 1769.

Records in Augusta County

From Chalkley’s Augusta County Records:


  • Vol. 1 - ORIGINAL PETITIONS AND PAPERS FILED IN THE COUNTY COURT. - 1745-1748. - Frederick Stern, Sr., and Mary Stern bound to appear as witnesses vs. George Gabriell, 12th February, 1746/7.
  • Page 331.--23d August, 1730 (prob. 1750). Jacob Goldman's will--Wife; son, John; son, Jacob; youngest child shall have her share as well as the oldest; executors, Frederick Stern, Humphrey Baker; daughter, Mary. Teste: Humphrey Baker. Presented, 28th May, 1751, but witnesses fail to appear, and lies for proof.
  • Vol. 1 - NOVEMBER 24, 1753. - (76) Road ordered from Saml. Stalnaker's, on Holston River, to James Davis's--Saml. Stalnaker to be overseer, with these workers: James Davis and his sons, Frederick Corlock, David, George and Conrad Corlock, Frederick Starn, Jacob and Adam Stalnaker, Jacob and Henry Goldman, Isaiah Hamilton, Hamilton Shoemaker, Timothy Coe, Humphry Baker and son, George Stalnaker, Adam Andrews, Mathias Sarch, Michael Hook, Martin Counce, Jacob Mires.
  • Page 203.--17th February, 1758. Colonel James Patton's estate; appraised by Thomas Stewart, John Ramsey, Edward Hall. List of bonds, bills, &c., due the estate: Frederick Stern, 12th February, 1754.
  • Vol. 1 - MARCH 18, 1767. - (477) On petition of Frederick Stern, Isaac Job, Thomas Grayson, John Bell, Henry Skaggs, Joseph Hix, John Draper, George Baker, Joseph Hord, Levy Smith, Erasmus Noble, Saml. Peffer, James Coudon, Edmund Vansell, Humphrey Baker, Anthony Bledsoe, James Newell and Alexr. Page, viewers appointed for a road from Vanse's, by Ingles's Ferry, to Peak Creek, on north side New River, viz: James Neeley, Philip Love, Wm. Christian, Wm. Bryans.
  • Page 125.--15th July, 1767. James Carty's estate appraised, by John Blackmore, Frederick Stern, Edmond O'Neal. Saml. Pepper, administrator.
  • Page 172.--19th November, 1768. James Cartie's estate--Sale bill, Saml. Pepper, administrator, recorded--To Levy Smith, Saml. Cloyd, Anthony Blather, Ellis Bean, Thos. Grisom, Fred Starn, Jacob Lorton, Anthony Blather, Edmond O'Neal, James Jonston, Isaac Job, Casper Wever, Henry Francis, John Taylor, James Hogg, Henry Skeggs, Saml. Ewing, Jacob Harmon, Roger Tap, Saml. Scott.
  • Vol. 1 - Page 383.--21st March, 1771. James Patton's settlement of estate recorded--John Buchanan, executor; 1767--Frederick Stern by John Taylor, who has purchased his land.