Person:Elen ferch Llywelyn (1)

Disputed Lineages

Helen, widow of Maoi Choluim II, Earl of Fife is sometimes identified as this Elen ferch Llywelyn, but this appears to be ruled out by conflicting dates of death. ^{Citation needed}

1. ↑ ^1.0 1.1 Elen ferch Llywelyn, in Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia.

   Note of Caution: Likely error in birth and/or marriage dates. Claims she married at age 4.

   
   

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   Elen ferch Llywelyn (c. 1218 – 1253) was the daughter of Llywelyn the Great of Gwynedd in North Wales by Joan, Lady of Wales, the natural daughter of King John of England.

   Elen married John of Scotland, 9th Earl of Huntingdon, in about 1222. He died aged thirty in 1237, and she was forced by King Henry III (her mother's half-brother) to marry Sir Robert de Quincy. Their daughter, Hawise, married Baldwin Wake, Lord Wake of Liddell. Hawise and Baldwin’s granddaughter, Margaret Wake, was the mother of Joan of Kent. Joan of Kent was the wife of Edward, the Black Prince and the mother of Richard II of England, who was deposed and died without heirs.

   The blood of Llywelyn the Great eventually came into the English royal family through Joan of Kent's earlier marriage to Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent. By their eldest son, Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent, two of his six daughters were ancestresses;

   • Margaret Holland who was the mother of John Beaufort, 1st Duke of Somerset; John Beaufort was the grandfather of Henry VII.
   • Alianore Holland was the grandmother of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York. Richard was the father of Edward IV and Richard III and a grandfather of Elizabeth of York, queen to Henry VII.

   By Thomas, 2nd Earl of Kent's other daughter, Eleanor Holland, Countess of Salisbury, Elen ferch Llywelyn was an ancestress of Queen consorts Anne Neville, consort of Richard III and daughter of Warwick, the Kingmaker, as well as Catherine Parr, the last wife of Henry VIII.
   

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2.   Gruffudd ap Cynan 4, in Peter Clement Bartrum. An electronic Version of Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1500.

   [Bartrum notes that sources differ with respect to the identity of her mother (either Joan of England or Tangwystl).]

3.   Gruffudd ap Cynan 4, in Bartrum, Peter C. (Peter Clement). Welsh genealogies, AD 300-1400. (Wales: University of Wales Press, c1980).

   [Bartrum cites G 9 for being a daughter of Tangwystl and G 79 for her being a daughter of Joan. He questions the latter.]