Person:Alfred Ellis (6)

From Ellis to Lee and then back to Ellis again

In 1851 Alfred Ellis was 12 years old and still living at home with his family at 5 Garden Row, Finsbury, Middlesex, England, UK.

In 1861 we have been unable to find Alfred with his parents in the Census he appears to have left home but his whereabouts are a mystery.

The next we see his is on the 27 Apr 1864 when he marries Martha Bartlett in St James Church, Shoreditch.. The following year they have their first child Alfred (Jnr) in 1865, Alfred is christened shortly after his birth.

When each of the children are born their births are registered under the name Ellis. For most of the births except daughter Martha Sarah Ellis the mother lists her maiden name as Ellis however for Martha Sarah's birth she lists her maiden surname as Lee, it was the first time that Martha had acted as an informant for one of her children's births and although she acted as informant for all the subsequent birth registrations this was the only time that she listed her maiden name as Lee and not Bartlett.

Between 1870 and 1876 all the children of Alfred and Martha were born at 257 St Georges Road.

However in the 1871 census we find the family using a different surname at their family home address 257 St Georges Road, St. George, Camberwell, Surrey
1.Alec Lee, 3?, Bootmaker, London
2.Martha ", age 31, Chiddingstone
3.Alfred ". age 5, London
4.Edward ", age 3, "
5.Martha S " age 3 mo, "

Alfred even changes his christen name from Alfred to Alec.

The family must have moved house after 1876 and before Sep 1880. as Martha who died on the 2 Sep 1880 is registerd as having died at 245 St Georges Rd, Camberwell, Surrey.. The death is registered under the name Martha Lee, the informant is Alexander Lee, widower who was present at the death.

In 1881 The widowed Alfred is found to be still living at 245 St Georges Rd, Camberwell, with his family
1.Alfred LEE, Head, Widow, Male, age 41, Boot Maker
2.Martha LEE, Daur, Female, age 10, Scholar
3.Kate LEE, Daur, Female, age 9, Scholar
4.Charles LEE, Son, Male, age 7, Scholar
5.Walter LEE, Son, Male, age 5,
6.Frederick LEE, Son, Male, age 4, Scholar

Alfred only went back to his real surname once he remarried

And the 1891 census we find him living with his new and young family at 5 June Grove, City Of London, London, England, UK
1. Alfred Ellis, 5, Bootmaker
2. Mary Ellis, wife, aged 39
3. Millie Eliis , Daughter, 5
4. Hugh A Ellis, Son, aged 3 Some interesting observations The first child Alfred was christened soon after he was born, at present we have not been able to locate the second son's christening and the younger children were only christened after their mother Martha Sarah died.
1.Martha ELLIS, bapt 27 May, 1881,
2.Walter and Kate Ellen ELLIS bapt 9 Sept, 1881;
3.Charles and Frederick ELLIS bapt 30 Sept, 1881 All at St. Lukes Church, their abode address was always given as 245 St Georges Road.

The children of Alfred's second marriage Millie and Hugh were also bapt at St Luke's Church with the home address listed at 245 St Georges Road.

Something must have happened after the eldest child was born. For Alfred to change both his first and last names in the census returns, but what we don't have any ideas as yet.

Whose signature? In 1864 Alfred was able to sign his own marriage certificate 1865 Alfred Ellis signed his sons birth certificate with an "X The mark of Alfred Ellis, Father" 1867 it is not clear if Alfred signed his second son's birth certificate or not.

Continued use of the surname Lee None of the descendants appear to have retained the surname Lee, all appear to have reverted back to their birth name other than in the Census returns which appears to be the only place, as yet, that we have been able to find reference to the surname being used in connection to our family.

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3} General Register Office, England. Birth Certificate Martha Sarah Ellis. (Reference Births Mar 1871, District Camberwell, Vol 1d, page 741).
2. ↑ England. 1841 Census Schedules for England and Wales, Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. (
   Kew, Richmond, Greater London TW9 4DU, United Kingdom:
   The National Archives (abbreviated TNA), formerly the UK General Register Office.)
   HO107; Piece: 661; Book: 1; Folio: 50; Page: 14; Line: 4; GSU roll: 438778.

   Borough: Finsbury; Civil Parish: St James Clerkenwell; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 3
   Address - Allen Street
   James Ellis, male, 35, cordwainer, born in county
   James Ellis, male, 8, born in county
   Alfred Ellis, male, 1, born in county
   Sarah Ellis, female, 25, born in county
   Ellen Ellis, female, 6, born in county
   Jane Ellis, female, 4, born in county
   also an apprentice & two other families in the house.

3. ↑ General Register Office, England. Birth Certificate Alfred Ellis Reference Births Sep 1839, St James Clerkenwell, Vol page. (Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
4. ↑ ^4.0 4.1 General Register Office, England. Death Certificate Alfred Ellis Reference Deaths Jun 1912, District Chelsea Vol , Page. (Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
5. ↑ England. 1851 Census Returns for England and Wales. (
   Kew, Richmond, Greater London TW9 4DU, United Kingdom:
   The National Archives (abbreviated TNA), formerly the UK General Register Office.)
   Class: HO107; Piece: 1521; Folio: 333; Page: 42; GSU roll: 87855.

   Borough: Finsbury; Civil Parish: St Luke Old Street; Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke;
   Reg'n district: St Luke; Sub-reg'n district: City Road; Enum Dist: 14; Household schedule number: 172
   5 Garden Row
   James Ellis, head, mar, 45, boot & shoemaker, born St. Leonard Shoreditch
   Sarah Ellis, wife, mar, 38, born Clerkenwell
   Sarah Ellis, dau, unm, 20, servant, born Clerkenwell
   James Ellis, son, unm, 18, servant, born St. Luke
   Ellen Ellis, dau, unm, 16, servant, born St. Luke
   Jane Ellis, dau, 14, servant, born Clerkenwell
   Alfred Ellis, son, 12, at home, born Clerkenwell
   Richard Ellis, son, 9, at home, born St. Luke
   Charles Ellis, son, 7, at home, born St. Luke
   Emily Ellis, dau, 5, at home, born Shoreditch
   Thomas Ellis, son, 2-6mths, at home, born Clerkenwell
   Walter Ellis, son, 3mths, at home, born St. Luke

6. ↑ General Register Office, England. Marriage certificate Alfred Ellis Martha Bartlett. (Reference Details. Marriages Jun 1864, District Shoreditch, Vol ?, Page ? Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
7. ↑ General Register Office, England. Birth Certificate Alfred Ellis, Reference Births Dec 1865, District Camberwell, Vol 1d, Page 584. (Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
8. ↑ General Register Office, England. Birth Certificate Edward Ellis, Reference Births Dec 1867, District Camberwell, Vol , Page. (Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
9. ↑ ^9.0 9.1 General Register Office, England. Birth Certificate Kate Ellen Ellis Reference Births Sep 1872, District Camberwell, Vol 1d, Page 721. (Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
10. ↑ ^{10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3} Census returns of England and Wales 1871,
    Registration Sub-District 2A Camberwell Civil Parish, Township or Pl.

    Alec Lee, 3?, Bootmaker, London
    Martha ", age 31, Chiddingstone
    Alfred ". age 5, London
    Edward ", age 3, "
    Martha S " age 3 mo, "

11. ↑ ^{11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3} 1881 Census returns for the Parish St Giles - extract for Alfred Lee widower. (1881 Census Civil Parish St Giles, Camberwell, Municipal District West No.1. Public Records Office RG11/698/21 Original a scanned copy oc page from the Original Census Enumerators' Book. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson.).

    1. Alfred LEE, Head, Widow, Male, age 41, Boot Maker
    2. Martha LEE, Daur, Female, age 10, Scholar
    3. Kate LEE, Daur, Female, age 9, Scholar
    4. Charles LEE, Son, Male, age 7, Scholar
    5. Walter LEE, Son, Male, age 5, Scholar
    6. Frederick LEE, Son, Male, age 4, Scholar
    7. Albert COATES, Lodger (Head), U, Male, age 19, Boot Maker
    8. George BUTCHER, Lodger (Head), U, Male, age 47, occupation Dock Labourer

12. ↑ Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria. Marriage Entry for Edward Ellis Ettie Schroder. (Original a scanned copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
13. ↑ ^13.0 13.1 Census returns of England and Wales, 1891, Registration Sub-District 4D St George Civil Parish, Township or Pl. (1891, Census Registration Sub-District 4D St George Civil Parish, Township or Place: Camberwell. Public Records Office, England (PRO) RG12/488 /125, Original a scanned copy of page from the Original Census Enumerators' Book . Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson. (poor quality image)).

    1. Alfred Ellis, ?5, Bootmaker
    2. Mary Ellis, wife, aged 39
    3. Millie Eliis , Daughter, 5
    4. Hugh A Ellis, Son, aged 3

14. ↑ ^14.0 14.1 General Register Office, England. Birth Certificate Walter Ellis. (Reference Births Dec 1875, District Camberwell, Vol 1d, Page 790).
15. ↑ ^{15.0 15.1 15.2 15.3} General Register Office, England. Marriage Certificate Alfred Ellis Mary Elizabeth Southgate Reference Marriages Dec 1883, District Camberwell,. (Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
16. ↑ General Register Office, England. Birth Certificate Frederick Ellis, Reference Births Mar 1877, District Camberwell, Vol 1d, Page 87. (Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
17. ↑ General Register Office, England. Birth Certificate Charles Ellis Reference Births Mar 1874, District Camberwell, Vol 1d, Page 795. (Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
18. ↑ ed. by E. R. Kelly. [1878]. The Post Office Directory of Surrey. (Volume note: 9th edition. The Surrey section from the 'Six Home Counties Directory' (pages 2041-2809)., London: Kelly, 1878)
    Page 2124 Camberwell, Surrey.

    Lee Alexander, Bootmaker, 257 St. George's Rd, Reference number: DIRELLIS02

19. ↑ ^19.0 19.1 Church Register for the Parish of St Luke, Camberwell in the County of Surrey England 1881.
20. ↑ ^20.0 20.1 General Register Office, England. Birth Certificate Hugh Alfred Ellis, Reference Births Sep 1887, Camberwell 1d, (1 )83. (Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
21. ↑ Census returns of England and Wales, 1901 - Census extract for Alfred, Mary Ellis family.. (1901 Census, Civil parish Camberwell, Parlimentary Borough or Division Peckham Div of Camberwell, Administrative County London.; Public Records Office, England (PRO) RG13/ 504/159. Computerised typed transcription copy downloaded 14/03/2003 from http://www.census.pro.gov.uk. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson.).
22. ↑ NSW Births Deaths and Marriages. Marraige Certificate Alfred Edward Leigh Ellis May Voilet Morris Reference Yr1908 1164. (Original 1:-a certified copy. Original 2:- NSW Marriage Registration Transcription Photocopies in possession of Sandra Williamson).
23.   Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria. Certificate of Marriage Walter Todman Martha Ellis 16 January 1892 Reference 345. (Original a in family papers of Myrtle Sharp. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
24.   General Register Office, England. Marriage certificate Alfred Ellis Martha Bartlett. (Reference Details. Marriages Jun 1864, District Shoreditch, Vol ?, Page ? Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson)
    Watch maker.

    Reference number: MCT0003

25. ↑ at the time of his marriage.
26.   and was self employed.