Family talk:John Dickinson and Elizabeth Howland (1)


Additional child of John Dickinson and Elizabeth Howland? [26 March 2009]

It appears we have an additional child of John Dickinson and Elizabeth Howland that I haven't seen before. The "Ann or Hannah" Dickinson does not appear as a child of John and Elizabeth in any source that I've seen, in addition to the place of birth (Flushing Mead, King's, NJ?) that does not fit with this Oyster Bay family. Perhaps she has been linked to this page by mistake? Does anyone have a source for this additional child?


The published Descendants of Captain John and Elizabeth Howland Dickinson of Oyster Bay, Long Island, by Marguerite S. Dickinson, provides a list of the children of John and Elizabeth (Howland) Dickinson:


1. Elizabeth Dickinson, born 11 October 1652, probably at Salisbury, Massachusetts, married, first, Caleb Wright, and, second, 3 August 1697 Gersham Lockwood of Greenwich, Connecticut.

2. Joseph Dickinson, born 24 December 1654, probably at Plymouth, Massachusetts, died about 1721 at Cedar Swamp, Long Island, N.Y. Joseph Dickinson married 1675 Rose Townsend, daughter of Henry Townsend, at Oyster Bay, Long Island.

3. Mercy (Mary?) Dickinson, born 23 February 1657 at Plymouth, Mass, died at Freehold, New Jersey, married Benjamin Harcutt.

4. Jabez Dickinson, born 23 February 1660 at Oyster Bay, Long Island.

5. Lydia Dickinson, born 5 August 1662, married 3 December 1677 Ephraim Carpenter.

6. Samuel Dickinson, born 26 January 1665, died before 7 February 1734 when his will was probated. Samuel Dickinson married Lydia _____________.

7. Mehitable Dickinson, born February 1667 at Oyster Bay, married Thomas Cheshire.

8. Hannah Dickinson, born 6 January 1671, married 27 August 1696 at Flushing Isaac Gibbs, son of Richard and Sarah Gibbs. They removed to Burlington County, New Jersey.

9. James Dickinson, born 27 May 1675, died 1737 at Smithtown, Long Island. Wesley Baker, in Descendants of Philemon Dickerson and Long Island Descendants of Capt. John Dickinson, states the date of death was "after 1741."--Delijim 19:37, 16 March 2009 (EDT)


I don't know of Hannah or Ann, but Flushing is in Queens Co., NY not Kings, NJ,which I don't believe exits. Oyster Bay is also in Kings Co.--Scot 00:54, 17 March 2009 (EDT)


Flushing Meadows and Oyster Bay are both on Long Island in modern times. Perhaps I'm not understanding what you're saying.

from: http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Marriage/AZ/G/G.8.html >>> Gibbs, Isaac Spouse : Dickinson, Hannah Date/Year of Marriage : 1696 Location : Oyster Bay County : Nassau ****1932, selected extracts Page : 98

from: http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/halew/Dickinson.html >>> from: (children of John Dickinson...) 8. Hannah Dickinson, born 6 January 1671, married 27 August 1696 at Flushing Isaac Gibbs, son of Richard and Sarah Gibbs. They removed to Burlington County, New Jersey.

9. James Dickinson, born 27 May 1675, died 1737 at Smithtown, Long Island. Wesley Baker, in Descendants of Philemon Dickerson and Long Island Descendants of Capt. John Dickinson, states the date of death was "after 1741."

John Dickinson apparently died at Oyster Bay in 1683; his will being proved 12 March of that year. John Dickinson's will, dated 26th of 11th month (January) 1680, is recorded in Book A of the Oyster Bay town records and also in Queens County deeds, Liber A. In it, he bequeaths to son Joseph lands previously settled upon him, 5 shillings each to daughters Elizabeth and Mary, and directed wife Elizabeth to dispose of the remainder of the estate to the six youngest children, Lydia, Mehitable, Samuel, Hannah, James and Jabis(sic).

The will of Elizabeth Dickinson, dated 10 September 1691, was recorded in Book B, page 192 of the town records. She bequeathed her house, lot, orchard and meadow to son Jebus(sic), and on his death, they to go to her eldest son Joseph. Elizabeth bequeathed five shares of land to son Samuel and son James 2 of 3 rights in Old Purchase of Oyster Bay and 5 acres of land at Plains. She divided her right of commonage equally between sons Samuel, Jebus and James. Articles of furniture to daughter Hannah, grandson Robert Harcut to receive two sheep. The residue of her estate to youngest daughters Mehitable Cheshire and Hannah. Mehitable was married at the time, Hannah was not.

Hope this brings a little clarity on these record references. I just looked them up on the web. --Dougcouch 03:14, 17 March 2009 (EDT)


THIS is the child in question that appears not to belong to John Dickinson and Elizabeth Howland:

http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Hannah_Dickenson_%282%29

Unless someone has a source for this additional child, she probably should be deleted. She was apparently added by user "npowell" --Delijim 11:35, 18 March 2009 (EDT)


Yes, this appears to be a duplication of the same "real" Hannah, who after marrying, removed to Burlington. Easy enough for someone to see as Hannah living in Burlington, see a reference to Kings County, and believe it refers to the NJ county rather than the NY county. --Dougcouch 11:48, 18 March 2009 (EDT)


I merged the two Hannah Dickinson's together to eliminate the duplication. Never got a response from the original submitter. (Delijim)

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