Family talk:James Bowker and Mary Unknown (1)


James Bowker and Mary Hinckley? [28 February 2011]

I was wondering what your source was for the marriage of James Bowker and Mary Hinckley. I inherited my father's genealogical information. He lived in Scituate and had access to the original source material. Unfortunately he didn't record his sources. He had James Bowker marrying Mary Unknown. If we can find the marriage source it is likely we can link Mary Hinckley to her parents (most likely Samuel Hinckley, one of the founders of Scituate - see http://www.scituatehistoricalsociety.org/families/HinckleySamuel.htm)--Sparrell 08:21, 28 February 2011 (EST)


Excellent question. I'll look and see if I know where this came from - I think probably a secondary source, tho.--Brenda (kennebec1) 14:29, 28 February 2011 (EST)

It is not likely her father was Samuel as his daughter was born in England in early 1630's and would be unlikely to be having children in 1680's and 1690's. If related, she would have to be a grand-daughter. I think Thomas Hinckley's daughter Mary can be ruled out, but not familiar with other grand-daughters. --Jrich 15:37, 28 February 2011 (EST)
I think we can rule out that she is a descendant of Samuel Hinckley. She admitted to Second Church of Scituate 12 Sep 1686 as wife of James Bucer and had Mary bp. 26 Sep, Lazarus 7 Nov [NEHGR 57:321-1]. Two children by end of 1686, probably married by 1684, probably born abt 1665 as her page says. James Bowker was in Scituate by 1680 so suspect he married after immigrating, so not a wife brought over with him. Samuel Hinckley's daughter Mary b. 1628 in England, too old. Three of Samuel's sons had families: Thomas, Samuel, and John. Thomas, who is about 20+ years older than the other two, had a daughter Mary b. 1644 m. John Weybone, probably too old anyway. Another daughter Mercy (sometimes Mary is used) b. 1662 m. Samuel Prince. Son Samuel had d. Mary, b. 1677, d. young. Son John had d. Mary, b. 1689 m. John Crocker, daughter Mercy who d. 1718 unmarried. Thomas had son Samuel who married Sarah Pope and had a daughter Mary or Mercy b. 1678 who married Seth Bangs. Best single source for this family is Amos Otis "Barnstable Families" which can be found on books.google.com. Most of the births are all found in a single section of Barnstable VRs in Mayflower Descendant Vol. 6. If his wife was a Hinckley, it was a different line. Torrey's marriages says James2 (-1724) & [Mary] _____ (1665-1733+); by 1684; Scituate {Scituate 223; Shurtleff 1:252}. The Scituate reference is to Deane's History of Scituate, also on books.google.com,and says maiden name unknown. Shurtleff probably means Plymouth Colony Records, but I couldn't locate what this referred to. --Jrich 17:50, 28 February 2011 (EST)

Wow! you are fast and thorough, Jrich. I think you are right; this is probably an artifact from an undocumented Ancestry family tree. I see the reference to Mary Hinckley all over the web, but with no attribution. I'll change her to unknown for now...--Brenda (kennebec1) 18:04, 28 February 2011 (EST)--Brenda (kennebec1) 18:09, 28 February 2011 (EST)