Family:Robert Ramsey and Sarah Unknown (1)

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b. Bef. 1700 prob. Ireland
d. Bet. 22 Feb 1738/39 - 1742 Prob. Orange or Augusta County, Virginia
 
b. Bef. 1703
m. Abt. 1720
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Marriage? Abt. 1720
Children
BirthDeath
1.
ABT 1721 prob. Ireland
2.
Abt. 1725
Bef. 15 April, 1783 Augusta County, Virginia

Genealogy Report for Robert Ramsey and Sarah:


Descendants of Robert Ramsey


Generation No. 1

1. ROBERT1 RAMSEY was born Bef. 1700 in prob. Ireland, and died Bet. 1739 - 1742 in Prob. Orange or Augusta County, Virginia. He married SARAH (Unknown) Abt. 1720. She was born Bef. 1703, and died Aft. 1753 in prob. Augusta County, Virginia.

Notes for ROBERT RAMSEY:

This Robert Ramsey, who arrived from Great Briton, was given "headrights" in Orange County, Virginia in 1739 and had land in Beverley Manor according to the following record:

22 Feb 1738/9 Robert Ramsey proved his importation in order to be eligible to purchase land. Source: Orange Co. Order Book I, P. 425

Shortly thereafter, "the widow Sarah Ramsey", shows up in Augusta County records (which was formed from Orange County, VA) in the following records:


Sarah Ramsey acquired land from William Beverley based upon the following:

LIST OF DEEDS The following is a list of deeds of land made by William Beverly on his manor, the name of the person to whom it was sold, and the number of acres; between 1738 and 1744:

41) SARAH RAMSEY, 390 acres;


This records in 1748 lists Robert Ramsey with his mother Sarah:

AUGUSTA PARISH VESTRY BOOK. ADMINISTRATORS' BONDS. page 434

Page 17.--James Fulton and John Mitchell make returns, viz: 1748, 26th March, processioned for Samuel Doak, present Samuel Braford; processioned for John Mitchell, present Samuel Doak; processioned for Samuel Braford, present Samuel Doak; processioned for John Buchanan, present James Cowen; processioned for Martha Mitchell (widow), present John Buchanan; processioned for James Cowen, present David Mitchell; processioned for David Moor, present Jas. Cowan; processioned for Robert Wilson, present Andrew Alexander; processioned for Andrew Alexander, present Robert Wilson; processioned for Patrick Campbell, present Joseph Reed; processioned for Joseph Reeds, present Chas. Campbell; processioned for Chas. Campbell, present Pat. Campbell; processioned for Patrick Hays, present Wm. Robinson; processioned for Robert Alexander, present ROBERT RAMSEY; processioned for ROBT. RAMSEY, present Pat. Hays; processioned for SARAH RAMSEY (widow), present ROBT. RAMSEY; processioned for John Lockhart, present Pat. Hays; processioned for Thos. Beard, present John Lockhart; processioned for Samuel Wilson, present Robert Wilson; processioned for David Doak, present Samuel Wilson; processioned for Eleanor Mitchell (widow), present Robert Wilson; processioned for John Teats, present Thos. Beard; processioned for James Linn, present Samuel Doak; processioned for John Brownlee, present Wm. Smith; processioned for George Breckinridge, present, ---- Breckenridge; processioned for James Robinson, present Anthony Black; processioned for Anthony Black, present Jas. Robinson; processioned for Wm. Robinson, present ---- Robinson; processioned for Jas. Fulton, present Alex. Brownlee; processioned for Samuel Steel, present John Fulton


This record is for the sale of the same 390 acres that Sarah Ramsey (widow) acquired in 1738-1744, which was adjacent to her son, Robert Ramsey:

Page 385.—15th August, 1753. Sarah Ramsey, widow, to John Fulton. 390 acres in Beverley Manor, cor. Robert Ramsey. Teste: Hugh Fulton, David Hay, Robert Ramsey, Jno. Kerr.




2008 e-mail from Lee Ramsey (e-mail: lkramsey@comcast.net) on this family and his thoughts about the parentage of Robert Ramsey and Capt. John Ramsey of Augusta County, VA:

Jim,

    This is just a quick note for explanation.  It may take a few readings to pickup on some of my analysis of the family structure that is buried in the research data.  I believe Sarah Ramsey was Robert Ramsey’s widowed mother and that Capt John Ramsey of Beverley Manor may be Robert’s brother.  This will account for my reference to Sarah Ramsey arrival to the Beverley Manor with two possible sons.  All of this is based on circumstantial evidence.  I also believe that the father of Robert Ramsey was deceased before Sarah and John and Robert Ramsey arrived to Augusta Co., VA by 1742.  There will be no record in Orange or Augusta Counties for the father of Robert Ramsey or the husband of Sarah Ramsey, and I know of no one who has family records for these early dates.  If the father of Robert Ramsey and the husband of Sarah Ramsey had come to the Beverley Manor there would have been a land record for him, and if he had died in Augusta Co., VA, there would be an estate administration for him.  These were very successful, influential Presbyterian settlers who were able to immediately establish themselves; and, only a widow woman could take up land independent of her husband.  

Lee


Notes for SARAH ???: Sarah Ramsey (maiden name unknown) migrated to the Beverley Manor section of Augusta County, Virgiinia supposedly with two sons. One of those sons is probably Robert Ramsey of Beverley Manor, who had land adjoining Sarah Ramsey, married Margaret Beard and migrated to Anson County, North Carolina. The other possible son of Sarah Ramsey is Capt. John Ramsey, who was also located in the Beverley Manor section of Augusta County, Virginia. The identity of Sarah's husband has not been determined. Based upon early records in Orange County and Augusta County, VA, It is clear that her husband died before her migration with her two sons to the area, possibly coming from the Lancaster or Chester County, Pennsylvania area. More research is necessary to determine definitive relationships.


Sarah Ramsey acquired land from William Beverley based upon the following:

LIST OF DEEDS The following is a list of deeds of land made by William Beverly on his manor, the name of the person to whom it was sold, and the number of acres; between 1738 and 1744:

41) Sarah Ramsey, 390 acres;



This records in 1748 also lists Robert Ramsey with his mother Sarah:

AUGUSTA PARISH VESTRY BOOK. ADMINISTRATORS' BONDS. page 434

Page 17.--James Fulton and John Mitchell make returns, viz: 1748, 26th March, processioned for Samuel Doak, present Samuel Braford; processioned for John Mitchell, present Samuel Doak; processioned for Samuel Braford, present Samuel Doak; processioned for John Buchanan, present James Cowen; processioned for Martha Mitchell (widow), present John Buchanan; processioned for James Cowen, present David Mitchell; processioned for David Moor, present Jas. Cowan; processioned for Robert Wilson, present Andrew Alexander; processioned for Andrew Alexander, present Robert Wilson; processioned for Patrick Campbell, present Joseph Reed; processioned for Joseph Reeds, present Chas. Campbell; processioned for Chas. Campbell, present Pat. Campbell; processioned for Patrick Hays, present Wm. Robinson; processioned for Robert Alexander, present ROBERT RAMSEY; processioned for ROBT. RAMSEY, present Pat. Hays; processioned for SARAH RAMSEY (widow), present ROBT. RAMSEY; processioned for John Lockhart, present Pat. Hays; processioned for Thos. Beard, present John Lockhart; processioned for Samuel Wilson, present Robert Wilson; processioned for David Doak, present Samuel Wilson; processioned for Eleanor Mitchell (widow), present Robert Wilson; processioned for John Teats, present Thos. Beard; processioned for James Linn, present Samuel Doak; processioned for John Brownlee, present Wm. Smith; processioned for George Breckinridge, present, ---- Breckenridge; processioned for James Robinson, present Anthony Black; processioned for Anthony Black, present Jas. Robinson; processioned for Wm. Robinson, present ---- Robinson; processioned for Jas. Fulton, present Alex. Brownlee; processioned for Samuel Steel, present John Fulton



From Augusta County, VA records: (this shows Robert Ramsey, most likely Sarah Ramsey's son having land adjoining Sarah, when she transfers 309 acres (the same 390 acres that she had acquired before 1744) to John Fulton)

Page 385.—15th August, 1753. Sarah Ramsey, widow, to John Fulton. 309 acres in Beverley Manor, cor. Robert Ramsey. Teste: Hugh Fulton, David Hay, Robert Ramsey, Jno. Kerr.





Is there a possible relationship to be gleaned from this Augusta County record?

1st June, 1763. James Black, plantationer, and Sarah ( ) to John Ramsey, £107.10, 165 acres in Beverley Manor on both sides South River of Shanando, part of 375 acres conveyed by Beverley to George Home, and by George Home to Gibbons Jennings, 1750, and said Jennings having afterwards absconded, the land was sold to highest bidder, viz., James Davise, by Richard Winston, sheriff of Orange County, to satisfy judgment against Jennings in favor of Isaac Smith,


Children of ROBERT RAMSEY and SARAH ??? are:

  • i. ROBERT2 RAMSEY, b. Abt. 1721; d. Abt. 1769, Anson County, North Carolina; m. (1) MARGARET BEARD, Abt. 1746, Augusta County, Virginia; b. Bef. 1730; d. Bet. 1750 - 1756, Augusta County, Virginia; m. (2) MARGARET MOORE, Bef. 1757; b. Bef. 1739; d. Bet. 1762 - May 1769.

Notes for ROBERT RAMSEY: This Robert Ramsey is known as "Robert Ramsey of Beverley Manor", and has been sometimes confused with another Robert Ramsey, known as "Robert Ramsey of the Great River of Cow Pasture" in Augusta County, Virginia. This Robert married Margaret Beard, daughter of Thomas Beard and Jean McNutt of Augusta County, VA. Robert and Margaret migrated to Anson County, North Carolina before 1762 as indicated in Augusta County, VA records, when the sold 340 acres in "Beverley Manor" to James Henry. Some researchers believe that Margaret Beard, the wife of Robert Ramsey may have died about 1754 (which may explain the 7-year gap between his 3rd and 4th children), and supposedly he married another Margaret, but more research is necessary to determine a second marriage.


Information from Rootsweb.com post of Lee Ramsey (e-mail: lkramsey@comcast.net):

Robert Ramsey of Beverley Manor

Robert Ramsey of Beverley Manor, Augusta County, VA married Margaret Beard. They settled in the Beverley Manor by 1742; and removed to Anson County, NC before 18 Aug 1762, which date Robert Ramsey and Margaret of Anson County, NC conveyed to James Henry 340 acres in Beverley Manor, adjacent to Samuel Huston, Robert Alexander, Patrick Hays and William Purris. This is most likely the same 340 acres that was sold to Robert Ramsey by William Beverley on October 17, 1747 in the following transaction:

Page 386.—17th October, 1747. Wm. Beverley to Robert Ramsey, £10.4.0; 340 acres in Beverley Manor; corner to Win. Roberson; to RobL Alexander and Patrick Hays; to Wm. Robinson. Teste: Robert Alexander, Jno. Fulton, Robt. Baird. Proved by Ro. Alexander and Ro. Beard, 18th November, 1747.

Robert Ramsey's mother may have been Sarah Ramsey, who was widowed by 1753, the year she conveyed 309 acres adjacent to Robert Ramsey in Beverley Manor to John Fulton. Sarah Ramsey was an early settler in the Beverley Manor, and her land deed there was recorded in Orange County, VA in 1742. Augusta County, VA was not organized until 1745. There is also the question of whether Robert Ramsey was a brother of Capt John Ramsey of Beverley Manor. John Ramsey was also in Beverley Manor by 1742 and died in Augusta County, VA in 1783. His wife, Mary, died in 1786.

Robert Ramsey's wife was Margaret Beard, the daughter of Thomas Beard, who left his will in Augusta County, VA 15 May 1769, providing a gift to Robert Ramsey and his children - "testator's grandchildren." Margaret Ramsey was not named in her father's will, inferring her death prior to May 1769. Robert Ramsey was one of the first elders of the Waxhaw Presbyterian Church, located near the mouth of the Waxhaw Creek, a tributary of the Catawba River. Robert and Margaret Ramsey's settlement in the Waxhaws was located in the far, southern end of the original Anson County, NC. The Waxhaw settlement land was taken into Mecklenburg County, NC in 1763, and later a portion fell into Union County, NC and a portion became apart of South Carolina .



The following records seems to indicate that "widow" Sarah Ramsey was probably the mother of this Robert Ramsey:

In this record, Sarah Ramsey processioned for Robert Ramsey:

AUGUSTA PARISH VESTRY BOOK. ADMINISTRATORS' BONDS. page 434

Page 17.--James Fulton and John Mitchell make returns, viz: 1748, 26th March, processioned for Samuel Doak, present Samuel Braford; processioned for John Mitchell, present Samuel Doak; processioned for Samuel Braford, present Samuel Doak; processioned for John Buchanan, present James Cowen; processioned for Martha Mitchell (widow), present John Buchanan; processioned for James Cowen, present David Mitchell; processioned for David Moor, present Jas. Cowan; processioned for Robert Wilson, present Andrew Alexander; processioned for Andrew Alexander, present Robert Wilson; processioned for Patrick Campbell, present Joseph Reed; processioned for Joseph Reeds, present Chas. Campbell; processioned for Chas. Campbell, present Pat. Campbell; processioned for Patrick Hays, present Wm. Robinson; processioned for Robert Alexander, present ROBERT RAMSEY; processioned for ROBT. RAMSEY, present Pat. Hays; processioned for SARAH RAMSEY (widow), present ROBT. RAMSEY; processioned for John Lockhart, present Pat. Hays; processioned for Thos. Beard, present John Lockhart; processioned for Samuel Wilson, present Robert Wilson; processioned for David Doak, present Samuel Wilson; processioned for Eleanor Mitchell (widow), present Robert Wilson; processioned for John Teats, present Thos. Beard; processioned for James Linn, present Samuel Doak; processioned for John Brownlee, present Wm. Smith; processioned for George Breckinridge, present, ---- Breckenridge; processioned for James Robinson, present Anthony Black; processioned for Anthony Black, present Jas. Robinson; processioned for Wm. Robinson, present ---- Robinson; processioned for Jas. Fulton, present Alex. Brownlee; processioned for Samuel Steel, present John Fulton


Page 385.—15th August, 1753. Sarah Ramsey, widow, to John Fulton. 309 acres in Beverley Manor, cor. Robert Ramsey. Teste: Hugh Fulton, David Hay, Robert Ramsey, Jno. Kerr.


This appears to be the Robert Ramsey mentioned in the following records in Augusta County, VA :

22 Feb 1738/9 Robert Ramsey proved his importation in order to be eligible to purchase land. Source: Orange Co. Order Book I, P. 425

Page 294.—13th August, 1747. William Beverley to Robert Alexander, £9.9.0; 314 acres in Beverley Manor; Patrick Hays' line; corner Robert Ramsey. Witnessed and proved as above.

Page 386.—17th October, 1747. Wm. Beverley to Robert Ramsey, £10.4.0; 340 acres in Beverley Manor; corner to Win. Roberson; to RobL Alexander and Patrick Hays; to Wm. Robinson. Teste: Robert Alexander, Jno. Fulton, Robt. Baird. Proved by Ro. Alexander and Ro. Beard, 18th November, 1747.

Page 492.—27th February, 1749. Same to William Robinson, 380 acres in Beverley Manor. Corner Robert Ramsey, patent line. Corner Patrick Hays. Teste: Andrew McCord, William Robison, Andrew Duncan.

Page 568.—28th February, 1749. Same to Robert Steel, 309 acres in Beverley Manor; corner Robert Alexander and Robert Ramsey; corner Nathaniel Steel; James Fulton's line; corner Samuel Steel. Teste: Samuel Steel, John McClure.

Page 362.—20th May, 1752. William Robinson and Martha to Samuel Houston, 380 acres. In Beverley Manor; corner Robert Ramsey; corner Patrick Hays. Teste: John Huston, John Pery, John Huston.

Page 292.—15th May, 1753. Samuel Houston to John Sprowl, 194 acre* in Beverley Manor on Beverley Manor and Borden's lines; John Montgomery's line; corner Patrick Hays; corner Robert Ramsey, part of 380 acres purchased by Samuel from Wm. Robinson. Teste: Thomas Paxton, James Edmiston, Francis Beatey.


These records indicate that Robert and Margaret Ramsey were in Anson County, North Carolina in 1756 and sold their land in Augusta County, VA in 1762:

McBEE's ABSTRACTS of ANSON RECORDS show: p. 216:

"William Beard of Anson, sold to ROBERT DAVIS, for 30 pounds Virginia Currency, 300 acres on Waxhaw Creek. April 24, 1756. Witnesses: John Crockett, Robert Ramsey, Repentance Townsend."

On the very same day, Robert deeded part of this land as follows:

   "for natural love and affection for ALEXANDER CROCKETT, 202 acres."

ANSON MICROFILM: Feb. 22, 1754. William Pickens and Archibald Crockett were witnesses of a James Larrimore deed.

April 4, 1756, Robert Ramsey deed to JOHN DAVIS and MOSES DAVIS, all of Anson, for 35 pounds Virginia Currency, 380 acres on Waxhaw Creek, reginning at red oak, including Beard's corner. Witnesses: John Crockett, Repentance Townsend, Archibald Crockett.

Page 506.—18th August, 1762. Robert Ramsey and Margaret, of Anson County in North Carolina, to James Henry, £70, 340 acres in Beverley Manor, cor. Samuel Huston; cor. Robert Alexander and Patrick Hays ; cor. Wm. Purris. Acknowledged and privy examination. Delivered: Samuel Henry, 21st June, 1771.


This MAY be the Robert Ramsey that received a land grant in North Carolina, in the Catawba River area in 1752:

There were 11 land grants in the Catawba River Valley in 1752: Robert Ramsey, William Robinson, Robert Ramsey, David Templeton, Thomas McHonny, Edward Griffin, James Harmer, Andrew Alllison, John Battey, Evan Lewis, and Thomas McHonny. (Source: McAfee’s & Allied Families in the Catawba River Valley)


This MAY be the Robert Ramsey that was listed as an executor of David Steele's will, but refused to execute:

Page 64.—14th September, 1747. David Steele's will—Farmer, son Robert, plantation; wife; son, Nathaniel; daughters, Martha Teas, Isabella McCluer, 5 shillings; daughters, Rebecka, Jannet. Executors, Samuel Doak and Robert Ramsey; refused to execute. Teste: Wm. Steel, Geo. Braken- ridge, Robert Alexander. Proved, 18th November, 1747, by Brakenridge" and Alexander.

Page 383.—17th October, 1747. Wm. Beverley to Samuel Steel, £17.14.0; 590 acres in Beverley Manor; corner to James Huston; David Steel's land; corner to Robert Alexander; corner to Patrick Hayes. Teste: Robert Alexander, Robert Ramsey, John Fulton. Proved by two Roberts, 18th November, 1747. Proved by John, 22d August, 1766.


Also, may be the same Robert Ramsey that was a testator for the will of Robert Fulton, along with his father in law, Thomas Beard:

Page 511.—18th July, 1752. James Fulton's will, farmer—Son, Hugh, 250 acres joining Samuel Steel's line. One horse died in New England, and 1 horse died here. Son, James, to take care of the widow for her life. Son, William. James to take care of the 2 young boys, David and Thomas, and 3 daughters, Elizabeth, Elliner, and jane. Son, John. To daughter, Elizabeth, a mare brought from New England. Son, David. Wife, Sarah, and son, Hugh, executors. Teste: Robert Ramsey, Thomas Beard, Robert Alexander. Proved, 15th August, 1753, by all witnesses, and executors qualify with sureties John Brownlee, Thos. Beard.


Additional information from Lee Ramsey (e-mail: lkramsey@comcast.net) on this Robert Ramsey:

Jim,

   This is just a quick note for explanation.  It may take a few readings to pickup on some of my analysis of the family structure that is buried in the research data.  I believe Sarah Ramsey was Robert Ramsey’s widowed mother and that Capt John Ramsey of Beverley Manor may be Robert’s brother.  This will account for my reference to Sarah Ramsey arrival to the Beverley Manor with two possible sons.  All of this is based on circumstantial evidence.  I also believe that the father of Robert Ramsey was deceased before Sarah and John and Robert Ramsey arrived to Augusta Co., VA by 1742.  There will be no record in Orange or Augusta Counties for the father of Robert Ramsey or the husband of Sarah Ramsey, and I know of no one who has family records for these early dates.  If the father of Robert Ramsey and the husband of Sarah Ramsey had come to the Beverley Manor there would have been a land record for him, and if he had died in Augusta Co., VA, there would be an estate administration for him.  These were very successful, influential Presbyterian settlers who were able to immediately establish themselves; and, only a widow woman could take up land independent of her husband.  

Lee


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Ramsey Family Genealogy Forum Re: Robert Ramsey, Augusta Co. VA

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Posted by Marge Ramsey Davis on September 13, 1998 at 18:38:14:

In Reply to: Robert Ramsey, Augusta Co. VA posted by Tom Ramsey on August 19, 1998 at 08:48:26:

Hi Tom, I checked in a book I have that was written by Robert Stone. Here's what it says about Robert Ramsey. "In the Augusta Parish Vestry Book (Page 17), 26 March 1748, is a notation "Processioned for Sarah Ramsey (widow) present Robert Ramsey." This is indicative that Sarah was Robert's mother. This Robert Ramsey lived in a section of Augusta Co, VA called Beverly Manor. The widowed mother, Sarah, sold her land in Beverly Manor in 1753. One of Robert's children was also named Robert, and on 18 August 1762 he and Margaret of Anson Co sold 340 acres in Beverly Manor.




One researcher made the following conclusion regarding Robert Ramsey's family:

III.2: ROBERT RAMSEY b c1721, d aft 14 Jun 1792, probably SC, md 1st c1748 to Margaret Beard, dau of Thomas Beard. Following is the analysis of Miss Nancy Crockett, a retired schoolteacher and genealogist living in Lancaster, SC:

Robert Ramsey sold property in 1756 to Moses Davis, but no wife joined him in signing deed. Deeds for property sold by Robert Ramsey before and after that date were signed as "Margaret [her X mark] Ramsey".

Thomas Beard in his will left money to "children of Robert Ramsey viz my grandchildren", 1769 Lancaster District, SC.

John Ramsey, Revolutionary War pension #S31318

"John Ramsey, the son of Robert, was born in 1758 in Craven (later Lancaster) County, South Carolina.

"While residing in said Craven County, he enlisted sometime in 1775 [1], served at various times on short tours until 1781, about ten months and three weeks in all as a private under Captains John Barclay, James Montgomery, Henry Coffee, Colonels Kershaw [2] and Davie in the South Carolina troops, and was at the siege of a Ford on Congaree, at the battle at Colonel Thompson's, at the battle of Hanging Rock and in two battles on the east side of the Catawba River. He stated that on one tour, he served as a substitute for his uncle, James Moore".

Miss Crockett concluded that Robert Ramsey m (1) Margaret Beard and (2) Margaret Moore. Probable ch of Robert Ramsey & Margaret Beard: III.2.a: Sarah Ramsey b c1749 III.2.b: William Ramsey b c1755 Probable ch of Robert Ramsey & Margaret Moore: III.2.c: John Ramsey b c1758 md Eleanor Unknown, died 1844 in Henderson Co, KY. Served Rev War, received pension. Eight children. III.2.d: Robert Ramsey b 1759-1763 Craven Co, SC d aft 1839 Henry Co, TN md Sarah Givens. Served Rev War, received pension. Eight children. III.2.e: James Ramsey b 1761 d c1842 Lancaster Dist, md Rosannah Unknown. Served Rev War, no pension. Three children. III.2.f: Alexander Ramsey b 1765 d 8 Sept 1855 Wayne Co, IL, md Eleanor Lynn. Served Rev War, no pension. Seven children.

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Notes for MARGARET BEARD: Based upon the following posting in 1997, Margaret Beard's father MAY be Thomas Beard. More research is necessary to prove this relationship. Some researchers claim that this Margaret Beard died abt. 1754, but other evidence supports her living until at least 1762, but prior to her husband's death in 1769:

Robert Ramsey of Beverley Manor, Augusta County, VA married Margaret Beard. They settled in the Beverley Manor by 1742; and removed to Anson County, NC before 18 Aug 1762, which date Robert Ramsey and Margaret of Anson County, NC conveyed to James Henry 340 acres in Beverley Manor, adjacent to Samuel Huston, Robert Alexander, Patrick Hays and William Purris. Robert Ramsey's mother may have been Sarah Ramsey, who was widowed by 1753, the year she conveyed 309 acres adjacent to Robert Ramsey in Beverley Manor to John Fulton. Sarah Ramsey was an early settler in the Beverley Manor, and her land deed there was recorded in Orange County, VA in 1742. Augusta County, VA was not organized until 1745. There is also the question of whether Robert Ramsey was a brother


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July 20, 1997 RAMSEY CHEROKEE ANCESTORS I have recently been told by a newly found RAMSEY cousin, that he was told we have Cherokee ancestors in our line. My mother also told me this, but had no information on who this ancestor/ancestors were. My RAMSEY line goes from ROBERT RAMSEY born about 1718 possibly in VA and his wife MARGARET BEARD born about 1739. Margaret's father was believed to have been THOMAS BEARD. Robert and Margaret's son, ALEXANDER RAMSEY was my 4 times Great Grandfather. His son, JAMES RAMSEY was my 3 times Great Grandfather. His son, ROBERT H. RAMSEY was my 2 times Great Grandfather. The migration path for my RAMSEY line goes from Augusta Co., VA to Lancaster and Craven Counties of South Carolina to Hopkins County, Kentucky-- with TN thrown in somewhere along the line--to Wayne and Effingham Counties of Illinois to the Springfield area of Missouri to Yale and Pryor, OK. I am very interested in finding out what Cherokee ancestors I may have and would appreciate hearing from anyone who has information about this! Thanks! Deborah Rupp (housnwoods@earthlink.net)


  • ii. JOHN RAMSEY, CAPT., b. Abt. 1725; d. 1783, Augusta County, Virginia; m. MARY BLACK, Abt. 1743, Prob. Augusta County, Virginia; b. Bef. 1726; d. 1786, Augusta County, Virginia.

Notes for JOHN RAMSEY, CAPT.:


WILL OF JOHN RAMSEY

In the name of God amen I John Ramsey of Augusta County Colony of Virginia being sick of body but of sound and perfect mind and memory praise be therfore given to almighty God do make and ordain this my present last will and testament in manner of form following that is to say first and principally I commend my soul into the hands of almighty God hoping through the merits of death of passion of my saviour JesusChrist to have full and free pardon of forgiveness of all my sins and to inherit everlasting life and my body I commit to the earth to be decently buried at the discretion of my executors hereafter named and as touching the disposition of all such temporal estate as it hath pleased almighty God to bestow upon me I give and dispose thereof as followeth -first I will that my debts of funeral charges shall be paid and discharged - Item I give unto Andrew Ramsey my son one little survey of land betwixt John Patricks line of John Blacks in the south side of the river and also the money I lent said Andrew to pay Robert Estham of two cows and two calves and one feather bed and furniture to him and his forever - Item I give unto my son George Ramsey three hundred pounds the one half cash and one half in n... and stock to be valued by two men and my property of land in Cantucky and three head of horses which is called his own to him and his heirs for ever. I give unto my son John Ramsey one french crown I give unto my son Alexander Ramsey one french crown Item I give unto my son William Ramsey one french crown. Item I give unto my grand son John Ramsey one french crown Item I give unto my grand son Alexander Ramsey one french crown Item I give unto my grand daughter Mary Ramsey twelve hundred pounds paper money which I lent to the Office if she dies before she becomes of age the same money to be paid to my grand son John Steele. Item I give and bequeath to my loving wife Mary Ramsey the half of the land which I now possess and the half of the n.... and the half of the cattle and horses and the half of the houshold furniture of the mantion house hill her discease and likewise the half of the rest of the stock Item I give and bequeath unto my son Daniel Ramsey the whole remains of my estate and the whole of my land which I now possess at his mothers discease to him and his heirs for ever and my loving Mary and Daniel Ramsey to pay each alike share of the debts and the lega? be paid out of the whole head.. Item My loving wife Mary Ramsey Andrew Ramsey Andrew Steele to be full and sole executors of this my last will and testament and I do hereby revoke disannul and make void all former wills of testaments by me hertofore made in witness wherof I the said John Ramsey to this my last will and testament do by my hand and seal in the year of our lord god this fifteenth day of February one thousand seven hundred and eighty three John Ramsey John Patrick John Black Samuel Black At a court held for Augusta County April 15th 1783 the last will and testament of John Ramsey deced was proved by the oaths of John Patrick and Samuel Black two of the witnesses thereto and ordered to be recorded and on the motion of the executors therin named who made oath according to law certificate is granted them for obtaining a probat therof in due form they having complyed with the law


John RAMSEY was born about 1726. He married Mary.

Capt. in the Augusta Co. Militia, a founding member of Tinkling Spring Church and owned tracts of land in Beverly Manor/Borden's Grant. Left a will in Augusta, VA in 1783 naming seven sons and grandchildren. Sons were William, James, John, Alexander, Andrew, George & Daniel. See note under son.

Mary was born about 1730. She married John RAMSEY.


From Augusta County, VA records:

Page 315.—15th May, 1767. John Ramsey and Mary ( ) to John Gilmer, Jr., £145 paid to Andrew Evans, 220 acres, part of 400 acres which did belong to John Ramsey upon main branch of James River, corner Carmickel's land. Delivered: Robert Thompson, 24th May, 1784.

10th May 1768. John Ramsey and Mary to John White 100pounds, 180 acres on James River, corner John Gilmore.



Notes for MARY BLACK:


Page 545.--30th December, 1785. Mary Ramsey's will, of Parish of St. Anne's, Albemarle County--To Alexander Ramsey, son to James Ramsey, infant; to six sons, viz: John, Alexander, Andrew, William, George Ramsey, and Andrew Steele; to Mary Ramsey, daughter to James Ramsey, infant. Executors, son John Ramsey and Andrew Steele. Teste: Samuel Black, Alex. Cummin, James Perthulls. Proved, 17th October, 1786, by Black and Perthulls. Executors qualify.