Family:Hermann Dörrien and Agneta Wolters (1)

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Facts and Events
Marriage[1][2][3] 1700 likely in or around August; and probably in London, England - although also possibly in Hamburg (Germany) or thereabouts. [see Family / Personal History below]
Children
BirthDeath
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29 Oct 1753 London, England
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abt. 1703 London, England
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abt. 1705 London, England
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25 Jul 1706 London, England
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abt. 1707 London, England
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abt. 1709 London, England
11 Nov 1783 London, England
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abt. 1711 London, England
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abt. 1712 London, England
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Family History

——from: 'Hermann Friedrich Dörrien - merchant of Hamburg and London, & his family' by Robin Cary Askew

« ... And so it would seem likely to have been in London where Mr. Dorrien married Miss Wolters in or around August of 1700 – when he was about thirty and she about twenty-six. This Miss Wolters (or Wolter) turns out to be the sister of one of Mr. Dorrien’s young apprentices, by the name of Peter Wolter, who was tragically murdered, less than a year later by his erstwhile friend and fellow apprentice Herman Strodtman, in whose confession, made on the eve of his execution (18 June, 1701), he mentions the detail of his master’s marriage.
—HERMAN STRODTMAN was indicted at the Old Bailey, on three ſeveral indictments. The firſt was for the murder of Peter Wolter, his fellow ſervant, on the 27th of April, 1701: the ſecond, for breaking open the houſe of Meſſieurs Stein and Dorien, and ſtealing a watch and other things, the property of the ſaid Peter Wolter; and the third for ſtealing divers goods, the property of Herman Frederick Dorien, on the day before mentioned. ... The Confeſſion of HERMAN STRODTMAN:
“... About the year 1694, my father ſent me to ſchool to Lubeck, where I continued till Michaelmas 1698. From thence I went to Hamburgh, and ſtaid there till I ſet out for England. I arrived at London in March following, and (together with one Peter Wolter, who came with me to England) was bound apprentice to Mr. Stein and Mr. Dorien, merchants, and partners in London. Peter Wolter and myſelf, having been fellow-travellers, and being now fellow-’prentices, we lived for ſome time very friendly and lovingly together, till about Auguſt laſt, when his fiſter was married to one of our maſters, Mr. Dorien. ....”S3 [This citation contains a transcription of the quotation above with the modern s instead of the original ſ.]
However, there is no record of this marriage having taken place at the German Lutheran Church in Trinity Lane, London – of which Mr. Dorrien was a member of the congregation and where he had his children baptised – beginning with his eldest son, Liebert on July 4th, 1701.S4
.... » —See full article: Hermann Friedrich DÖRRIEN & his wife, Agneta WOLTERS by Robin Cary Askew - or in downloadable MS.Word document format (with charts & endnotes) at: Media:Hermann Friedrich DÖRRIEN & his wife, Agneta WOLTERS.doc

NOTE: Access to 'new' information regarding the name of Hermann Friedrich Dörrien's wife has caused me to make appropriate revisions to this article - including its title. See: Agneta Wolters or - as she may have been named: "Anna Maria Jacoba Wolters".S4,S5 The links above still lead to the original article. As soon as I have finished revising the article with all the 'new' information, I will change these links to the new updated version. —R.C.A. (09/11/2014)

References
  1. Schlotter, Hans: Genealogien Hildesheimer Ratsgeschlechter bis 1802, Hannover 1989, p 87.

    « 6 Herman Friedrich, Kaufmann in London. / ~~ Hi/Andr. 9.8.1670; / + London 1740 / oo 1700 N. Wolters. »
    > Accessed on: www.rainerdoerry.de/Literatur/

  2. Arnswaldt, Werner Constantin von: Die Dörriens - Die Familie Dörrien in Alfeld, Hildesheim und Braunschweig. Im Auftrag von Gutsbesitzer Walter Dörrien, 1 Heft, 1910, chart following last page 67 (djvu: 66/66).

    « Harmen Friedrich ~~ Hildesheim (Andr.) 1670 Aug. 9., † London 1740 (γ 1733) Haufmann in London ~ . . . . 1700 . . . m. . . Wolters * . . 1674 . . . † . . . . 1726 . . . . Englische Linie: »
    > Accessed on: www.rainerdoerry.de/Literatur/

  3. The Tyburn Chronicle: Or, The Villainy Display'd In All Its Branches : Containing An Authentic Account Of The Lives, Adventures, Tryals, Executions, and Last Dying Speeches of the Most Notorious Malefactors Of all Denominations, who have suffererd for Bigamy, Forgeries, ... In England, Scotland, and Ireland : From the Year 1700, to the present Time, Vol. 1, London, Cooke [1768], pp. 32-44.

    « The Trial and Behaviour of HERMAN STRODTMAN, who murdered his Fellow-’prentice, robbed his Master, and set fire to his house. / HERMAN STRODTMAN was indicted at the Old Bailey, on three several indictments. The first was for the murder of Peter Wolter, his fellow servant, on the 27th of April, 1701: the second, for breaking open the house of Messieurs Stein and Dorien, and stealing a watch and other things, the property of the said Peter Wolter; and the third for stealing divers goods, the property of Herman Frederick Dorien, on the day before mentioned. / From the depositions of the witnesses it appeared, that the prisoner having been discharged the service of Messieurs Stein and Dorien, for some misdemeanours, about three days before the fact was committed, took lodgings at the Sun Alehouse in Queenstreet, and told the master of the house, that his father was a merchant in Saxony, and that he was come to London to learn the English language, after which he was to go to the West Indies; and that his cloaths were to arrive that evening by the carrier. .... // The Confession of HERMAN STRODTMAN. “In the year 1683, or a little before, I was born at Revel in Lisland, and had the happiness to come of a good family; my parents being of some account in the world, and also a godly and religious people, who took great care of my education. / About the year 1694, my father sent me to school to Lubeck, where I continued till Michaelmas 1698. From thence I went to Hamburgh, and staid there till I set out for England. I arrived at London in March following, and (together with one Peter Wolter, who came with me to England) was bound apprentice to Mr. Stein and Mr. Dorien, merchants, and partners in London. Peter Wolter and myself, having been fellow-travellers, and being now fellow-prentices, we lived for some time very friendly and lovingly together, till about August last, when his sister was married to one of our masters, Mr. Dorien. ....”
    > Accessed on: books.google.co.uk/

  4.   Hamburg Lutheran Church Register General 1669-1849, MS 8356 Kirchen Buch der Kirche S.S. Trinitatis in Trinity-Lane .....

    > Searched on photocopies of the original pages for marriages covering a period of about five years before the birth of their eldest child, Liebert, who was baptised on July 4th, 1701 > « Anno 1701 ... 4 Juli | Liebertus Dorrien Son to Mr . Friederic Dorrien in Bushlane »
    « Anno 171⅘ [1715] ... 11 marti.. | Friderick Dorrien, filius __ Fr. Dorrien, et Agneta Dorrien nat: Wolters / an den misells ins gewölbe beigesetzt »
    > Accessed on photocopies obtained from the London Metropolitan Archives (LMA), 40 Northampton Road, London, EC1R OHB, United Kingdom / Tel: 020 7332 3820 > Family History > Hamburg Lutheran Church > Reference: CLC/189/MS08356 / Description: Register of baptisms 1669-1849; confirmations 1734-1835; communicants at denizations 1696-1783; marriages 1671-1754, 1831 and 1843-9; deaths and burials in the church 1695-1847; preachers ordinations 1728-1891; deaths and burials not in the church 1724-6; collections upon briefs 1707-10; school children of the community 1724-30. 1 volume / Former Reference: MS 08356 / Dates: 1669 – 1891 In English and German.

  5.   Lohmann, Reinhard: Die Familie Wolters in Hamburg während des 17. Jhs. und die Beziehungen von Liebert Wolters Vater und Sohn nach Schweden, 1969, pp. 18-19, 307.

    Inaugural-Dissertation zur Erlangung des Doktorgrades der Wirtschafts- und Sozialwissenschaftlichen Fakultät der Universität zu Köln, 1969 - vorgelegt von Diplom-Kaufmann Reinhard Lohmann aus Altena (Westf.) - Referent: Professor Dr. Hermann Kellenbenz Korreferent: Professor Dr. Friedrich Seidel Tag der Promotion: 10. Juli 1969.
    « ... Liebert II Wolters heiratet im mai 1673 unter Aufsehen erregenden Umständen Agatha, die einzige Tochter des sehr reichen Peter von Overbeck.(22) …Aus dem Familienarchiv Brants in Amsterdam erhalten wir auch für eine zweite weibliche Linie einen Hinweis auf Fortführung der Wolterschen Familientraditionen: Enkel Dorrien, Sohn von Anna Maria Jacoba Wolters und Friedrich Dorrien, führt um die Mitte des 18. Jhs. in London Handelsgeschäfte unter dem Firmennamen Dorrien und Wolters aus.(25) »
    « ... / V. 8: 17 Maria Jacoba Wolters, x London 1642 / oo I. Hamburg 1667 den "Engelsmann” FranzTownly / … / 20 Liebert II Wolters, x 19.5.1647, + 25.2.1719 / oo 1673 Agatha von Overbeck // VI. 20: 24 Anna Maria Jacoba Wolters, x 1674, + 1726 / oo 1700 Hermann Friedrich Dorrien, Kaufmann in London .... »
    NOTE: x = born; + = died; oo = married